thermostatic mixing valve for anti-sweat

t hardy

Anyone know of a good room temp thermostatic mixing valve
useful for supplying toilet water?
Water is pumped from well and is very cold, so in the very humid summertime on the water, the toilets sweat all to hell and gone.
I'm using the universal-rundle, but it's not thermo-
statically controlled, it's just a mixer, so the water varies from about just right to near hot.
I don't know about you guys, but not everyone uses air conditioning.
Any help would be appreciated - thanks.

Gary Fereday

watts, honeywell, sarco, cash acme

All names I remember that have or are making what you want.Not so much just for toilets but the tempering valves . Maybe try "tempering valves" look in the thomas register for that. hope this helps. They are made and are around
bigugh

Weezbo

this may sound like i am making this up...

buh...In the central interior of all large land masses one experiences the greatest extremes of temp variation,...In Alaska the temps bounce down into the - 70 and lower and up into + 100 so our summer though only an illusion brings us heavy condensation problems...one thing and another has rolled trough my thoughts to counter the 34 degree F water against an 80 or 90 degree back drop...Wirsbo tubing really helps a group..still it gets condensation on the outside of it also,however not say as heavy as copper.

so her is a thought if you use a sparko B with the check designed for 60 degree water set point....and a re circ from a distant Hot water with some circulation in mind ,you could get sort of a warmer hot water and a warmer cold water...humidity on set point isnt a really good answer buh my thinking is you could at least start there...

my though though and this could be a mistake would be to catch it just as it enters the house at the meter (we use a supply and return loop) or just after the check from a well with a submerable pump or ahead of the pump and after the check on shallow well pump. ...The plan sorta bites though, as the drinking water temp would be fairly warm in summertime. Grunfoss makes a pump for recirculation that bleeds water out of the hot water line into the cold as a form of on demand point of use instant hot water.

t hardy

thanks
my thoughts are that although nearly everyone makes a tempering valve, they are primarily designed to operate
in 'higher ranges' for anti-scald rather than anti-sweat

and I don't need to worry about the feed lines as they are fairly well protected from the atmosphere with insulation - just the toilet (and tank) itself - start flushing these babies with any frequency and watch the water really pool on the floors

Ed_26

Sweating toilets -

Have you got insulated tanks on the toilets? This will help a lot. Also ventilation/dehumidification. You may need only an exhaust fan or heating system fan operating to move air around & out of the room/building.Or both, depending on the humidity levels.

Joe_55

sweating toilet

It is not uncommon to hook up to a hot water source (no more sweating)
Bill

SVDW

Toilet mixer

Central Brass model B-555 is made for this application. Probably around $45 at a supply house.

bob young

hot water for toilets not

have you ever seen a ballcock melt bill ? keep hooking them up with hot water & you will. make sure your liability insur. is up to date. you might need it.

t hardy

the central brass model 555 is not thermostatic - just a bare bones mixer and stuffing the tank with insulation certainly helps a bit, but then even less water for already low flush
the trouble with a straight mixer is that the the water can get relatively hot after a bunch of people flush - alternatively if too cool, just add more sweat - keeping good circulation going brings in even more relatively humid air and dehumidification implies some sort of air conditioning
in the good old USA that we need air-conditioning to keep toilets from sweating seems unreasonable compared to a simple lower temperature thermostatic mixing valve