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gas or deisel

shawn_5
shawn_5 Member Posts: 52
Just wanted to see how many people out there are going to deisel because of the future gas pricing.

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  • thfurnitureguy_4
    thfurnitureguy_4 Member Posts: 398


    more to it than just fuel. cost of engine is about $4500. more, cost of fuel is 2.30/g cost of service for a 15 qt oil sump. Remember to plug in if temp is toward 0. The difrence in fuel is about 25% better with diesel. They do have gobs of torque and on a big truck over long distance they are the best. On short stop city service truck go gas. Sold Fords for years and the big complaint on any svs truck was breaks and buying not enough truck. Best of luck.
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,094
    going diesel

    I,m planning on getting a new van in a month or so and it will be diesel besides easier maintance ,no plugs or tune ups the mileage say on a sprinter is better then any 250 or 350 van weather it is gas or diesel plus i have a old benz 225,000 thousand lines on the original motor only replaced a alternator thats it never even used the block heater and the mileage is excellent beside the maintance i believe that diesel run longer with less promblems then most gas motors this is just my experence .The last place i work had only diesel vans and on most the bodies or tranny went while the motors still turned over and ran .The only major maintance with diesel are oil ,air ,fuel and regular oil changes peace and good luck clammy
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  • thfurnitureguy_4
    thfurnitureguy_4 Member Posts: 398
    MZB

    Gotta love the Benz. I have a 1984 300sd 300K and being run by a teenager Just can't kill it. BTW what kind of oil milage do you get out of yours?
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,094
    1981

    She's a 1981 240d with a 4 speed she's gets around 24 to 26 around town and at least 28 to 30 so on the highway and it's true you cannot kill a benz diesel motor just about bullet proof and in all truth that what makes the sprinter so attrative plus while in germany in the late 90 a few times all the heating tech that i meet used these vechiles and after seeing then i've been waiting for them to appear in this country i believe soon you will see more and more guys using them the benz diesels are in my belief a excellent bargain compared to the larger american equipted diesel vans plus that high cieling and lower to ground height is a winning combo just my opion peace clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Michal
    Michal Member Posts: 213
    get the oil conversion kit possibly

    hey guy, there is a comapny in Connecticut or massachussets damn I cant spell, that has a add on kit in which you can use used cooking oil from restaurants, I looked into it when I was looking for a truck, but bought a tahoe with a gas engine since the 2 door models offered with diesel were discontinued. This kit is like12 to 1800 depending on engine and you can install it yourself, mileage is the same or comparable, only thing is you have to start and stop the truck while in diesel mode. I do not have the comapny mnames but might look into it if you have a pickup or something. Spain is currently doing that on most of their public busses.
  • Joe Mattiello
    Joe Mattiello Member Posts: 703
    E class benz diesel

    Volkswagen and Mercedes are the only two automobile manufactures that offer diesel in this country. I own the Volkswagen passat diesel that averages approx. 40 mpg. Love it....Go diesel!!

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  • t. tekushan
    t. tekushan Member Posts: 141
    diesel

    Diesels out there now are all pretty much like the new VW and Benz -common rail direct injection. Excellent economy, performance, cleanliness. All the euro auto companies have wonderful diesels. We just can't get the rest of them here.

    My fleet of Peugeot turbodiesel wagons (well, three) are showing their age (the newest is 1984) but still running strong. Unfortunately, the non-turbo '77 Peug has finally died at 370,000 miles (can you spell turbodiesel retrofit?).

    When its time for something new, it too will be diesel.
  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
    I have two

    Very different vehicles, but both diesel. The first one I bought is a 2001 F-350 with the 7.3 Powerstroke. Out on the highway running 75-80 it will give me 17-17.5 MPG. On the two lanes around here, 60mph give or take a couple, it'll get an honest 18. Towing the 24' 5th wheel trailer at highway speeds and about 5 tons yields 11-11.5MPG. Not bad in my book. My nephew has a 2004 Dodge with the Cummins in it and he gets about the same on the road but only 7-8MPG pulling a load. The Ford has 140K on the odo and uses a quart of Rotella 5W-40 synthetic every 4200 miles. I change the oil at 10K. To date the only repairs on the truck were a water pump at 76,000 (warranteed) and the alternator at 110,000. First brake job at 105,000, My boys gave me a Hypertech 3 stage chip for Fathers day. Yeah right, it was for me, NOT!!. Like that motor needed more power, but what a riot! Stop light to stop light was never this much fun in the old Plymouth I had in high school.

    I just bought the Sprinter in early February. It has 5,100 miles on it as of today's trip to Lansing. Just out of curiosity, I filled it when I got back this evening. 318 miles and it took 13.6 gallons of fuel, equating to 23.4MPG. Not bad for a motor that I'm told doesn't get fully broken in til it hits 10-12K. I think we're really going to like the Sprinter.
  • Tony Conner
    Tony Conner Member Posts: 549
    That Seems...

    ...odd about your nephews Dodge. Mine is a 2003 4X4, and there's essentially no difference in fuel economy whether it's pulling a trailer or not. I routinely get 20 miles to the Imperial gallon in mixed highway/city driving. People with the same truck, but with the gasoline engine, are only getting about 14.

    I figure the diesel runs about 55 - 60% of the operating cost of the gas engine equivalent. You just need to drive enough to get the payback on the diesel option, which was $6,500 Cdn.
  • Tony Conner
    Tony Conner Member Posts: 549
    That Seems...

    ...odd about your nephews Dodge. Mine is a 2003 4X4, and there's very little difference in fuel economy whether it's pulling a trailer or not. I routinely get 20 miles to the Imperial gallon on the highway. People with the same truck, but with the gasoline engine, are only getting about 14.

    I figure the diesel runs about 55 - 60% of the operating cost of the gas engine equivalent. You just need to drive enough to get the payback on the diesel option, which was $6,500 Cdn.
  • joel_19
    joel_19 Member Posts: 931
    sprinters!!

    We have 5 vans , two pick ups. two are Sprinters. get the Sprinter i'd never buy a regular van again. Sprinter is so much better it makes the others look like toys.

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  • thfurnitureguy_4
    thfurnitureguy_4 Member Posts: 398


    Mike, we have a kid in PA running a 300 MZB on fry oil. The key is to heat the oil in a separate tank with a short loop of copper pipe. Run a length of heater hose to it at the block side of the t-stat. He was using a boat gas tank in the trunk for his fry oil. Used a shop rag for a filter before filling and a valve to switch from diesel when the mix warmed up. Now if a kid can figure this out Why are we paying $2+++ a gal for Diesel? Answer We are the only country that has fat poor people and fat dogs.
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