Very Interesting about PEX

Al Gregory

I saw this and thought you guy would like to read it and see the pics.

http://www.skinrxclinic.com/original_plumbing_that_burst.htm

I found it on a home inspectors board
http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewtopic.php?t=9106

Mark Hunt

Seems more like


a problem with the installers?

What would it have been like had the used copper underground? I'll bet there soldering would be worse than any compression fitting they did.

Bad situation for the homeowners though. They certainly didn't bargain for this.

Mark H

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Weezbo

is that normal or just a really really bad example of the GC

and mechanical contractors work ? i would seriously wonder if anyone was doing an inspection at all...surely the mechanical inspections done would have revealed a good amount of these mistakes and the failures of oversight of any kind leads one to wonder where the other tradesmens minds must be to have never even mentioned what was clearly wrong just looking at the work...some ideas are a little avant gaurd and may not have been seen however if someone took and nailed plywood gussets on small random lengths of 2X4 until it almost was long enough for a pre cut a delivery guy would know it wasnt right much less any kind of skilled tradesman.as an ankle biter i could point that mess out in a New York Minute.:)

Dave Yates (PAH)

wanna bet

The builder will do what builders do when the lawsuits finally get filed and the HO's spend 50K to their lawyers in pursuit of the bum?

Bankruptcy. No assets either as everything will be tied to someone not associated with the business & therefore not attachable.

Next day, they'll simply open up under another name.

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ed wallace

bad pex install

i always thought the idea with pex was to avoid joints in walls its almost as if the installers were trying to install the pex as if it was copper

Constantin

Flashbacks...

A very similar situation and lack of resolution made me start my own web site... nothing is more damning than a whole series of pictures and dialogue in convincing folk that a manufacturer/builder/etc. is to be avoided. Sometimes, a picture is worth a thousand words.

On the other hand, web sites can also be instrumental in raising awareness so that others not commit the same mistakes over and over. I'm thinking of buildingscience.com, the Wall, OilTechTalk, etc. Once a consumer is educated and knows what to look for, the knuckleheads, hacks, etc. will have a much harder time doing their hackery...

Boiler Guy

Some scary reading

here and the links. I have heard other horror stories of new construction debacles in the good old USA. It begs the question: Are the inspection processes that much more lax than in Canada?

PS

Also

Another good example of common HO who thinks this stuff will be caught during the inspection process. There will always be contractors that will try to get away with anything they can - especially when the inspectors let things like this go. HO needs a new lawyer, too.

Al Gregory

HO was probably more worried about paint colors and such. Why wouldnt someone bring in their own inspector when building a new house to make sure things are the way they are supposed to be. A Home Inspector and a few hundred bucks would have caught this stuff while the walls were open.

PS

No one expects a paint inspection. Like I said - typical HO thinks government inspections protects them. That's what their taxes are for, right? See it too often

Man with a question

Plumb Pex Fittings

I have used plumb-pex fittings and have not had a problem thus far. This article has me really concerned though. My understanding is that they CAN be used for a in-slab splice/repair if necessary, though you can bet I'll be wrapping them if I ever need to use them again.

I've got more than a couple connections inside walls as well, though nothing like the examples on the website. They've always seemed more secure to me than Pro-Pex fittings. I've left some installations under 100PSI test for a couple months with virtually no leakage.

What is the realistic picture here?