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oil to gas conversion

JB_3 Member Posts: 1
Some of you may recognize the picture of my old oil boiler that I posted a year ago. Here is the replacement - I didn't believe my eyes - two guys did the conversion in less than 7 hours.


  • tommyoil
    tommyoil Member Posts: 613
    WOW !

    Is all I can say. Was that seven hours WITH the removal of the old unit??? I'm sure you got what you paid for there. Good luck with the new one.
  • don_93
    don_93 Member Posts: 1

    you know what they say,hurry in and hurry out because we bid
    it low so we could get the job.

  • Ken_8
    Ken_8 Member Posts: 1,640
    I can see why it took only 7 hours

    And the safety relief valve piping, expansion tank arrangement, pump location (cannot see in photo) lack of screws in the vent piping are just openers.

    Very interesting pic. nonetheless.

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  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    How about that steel

    expansion tank?

    State-of-the-art, low mass boiler without a diaphragm tank?

    You can knock the work, but he definitely needed a boiler and burner, so since his oilman didn't sell him one the gas boys did, way cool!

    Ya know what's really sad? This is mostly for you young guys, BTW!

    In the late 1970's the government spent a ton of dough on the 'Retrofit Program' to teach the oil industry that new burners could not only make us money, but that it would save accounts.

    We had the 'Oilman' program which was very successful and would play right into the superhero genre currently the rage. JAO, but I think it would have been better than the infamous bubbleheads?

    Want proof that retrofit works? Look around and every new piece of equipment and oil tank you see is a saved account. One other thing, 1982 was the biggest year for oilburner sales ever! Gotta wonder, hunh?

    But, keep this in mind, that the 'Retrofit Program' launched exactly 26 years ago this week, YUP, no kidding, FACT!

    In 1979 I was one of those teaching us, for the Feds, that 'new was good'. Conservation worked, people who burned less oil and didn't have breakdowns would stay, etc, etc, etc.

    This was all done through the old Better Home Heat Council of MA.

    The teaching done by me and a sales group called Hall & Mackey was that old oil tanks were a black mark. Burners over twenty years old were obsolete. Boilers and furnaces over 30 were junk.

    I was sent to NH, ME, RI, LI and NJ and it worked, big time.

    What happened?

    "Those that fail to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it".

    BTW, there are other defects besides the tank, but the homeowners impressed as hell and that's all that counts!
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    ever make your own electrodes for that burner Firedragon?

    personally i like the old boiler it looks almost Mint :)
  • JB_5
    JB_5 Member Posts: 2

    I liked the old boiler too - it must've been very reliable the last 77 years (installed in 1928), since none of the previous owners replaced it :)
    Wanna bet if the new Burnham will last that long?

    Tommyoil - yes, this is 7 hours with draining the system, hauling the old boiler out of the basement and onto the track, running additional power and gas lines, installing the new one and sweeping the basement clean after that.

    On a side note - what are the advantages of diaphragm expansion tank?
  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    Look at Figure 3 and

    Figure 4 in the install manual, surprise!
  • Al Gregory
    Al Gregory Member Posts: 260

    With that system you will find out really quick. One being that you dont have to drain it. Put a buckett under the relief valve and dont put anything near the boiler that dosnt like to get wet.
  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    I use to keep a lot

    of 'universal' electrodes around Weezbo.

    Another thing was mounting plates for ignition transformers, oy!

    Although not many carry them any more I loved my ole Dongan transformer tester. That was left on a lot more than one job as a substitute for the night or weekend, FACT!

    I know you work the boonies, but downtown Boston is no picnic either. Give me the suburbs with supply houses on every block!

  • JB_5
    JB_5 Member Posts: 2

    I looked at fig.3 and4 in the manual, and they do show diaphragm tank, but why diaphragm tank would be better than steel with Airtrol vent valve?
  • B. Tice
    B. Tice Member Posts: 206

    Nice chimney liner. With all that cold return water and no by pass or other proper piping procedures,(see the huge system piping) the chiney should be washed out in 6 months, the boiler leaking in 3 years.
  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    Water content and

    recovery rate (fast).
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    JB dont throw that oil pump away either...that sir is currently

    worth its weight in GOLD :)
  • tommyoil
    tommyoil Member Posts: 613

    How many of those pumps would you like? I would be willing to part with them for a little less than their weight in gold. I think my inventory is down to a hundred or so.
  • Jim S
    Jim S Member Posts: 82

    did they look at the installation manual?
    The vent damper does not go in that location.
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    i hear that there is somewhat of a natural niche these days

    for the back log of model j's and H 's last winter and early summer our local suppliers where like what to replace the suntechs with websters ..??? ok so i go looky for h and j's whews ..Rebuilds... many presidents! :)i lucky and have a few of my own :)i even have some older suntechs that are plugged and will work :) still i think a rebuilt is better than the cheap fall a part at the seams pumps...and i belive the company on the east coast was soliciting the purchases of rebuilables..maybe you can deal them off and cash out ! :) i know where two 55 gallon barrels of them are ...i am gonna hold out until they are twice the price of an ounce of gold :)
  • tommyoil
    tommyoil Member Posts: 613
    I have two milk crates FULL

    I wish I knew where to unload them. Sid Harveys wil "take them off your hands". Shall I ship them to you? Something else headed for the junk pile I suppose.
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