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Garret_4
Garret_4 Member Posts: 14
I had something similar happen with my house... the inspector found the roof to be on its last legs, and already leaking through a little bit. Rather than ask the sellers to replace the roof to bring it up to a salable condition, our realtor suggested we ask for half of the cost of the re-roof job to be deducted from the sale price. Worked out well for everyone... Got the house sold easily, and we were able to get the roof done properly 6 months after moving in.

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  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,557
    Steam piping

    Check out the pictures below. This unit has obviously been running for many years with no Hartford Loop, no equalizer and a copper supply. The owner is trying to sell the house and the inspector spotted the problem. He will need to have the asbestos removed and have the header repiped. I've got 27 1/2" from the water line to the bottom of the existing header.

    What you see there is 2 mains coming off the header going to one end of the house, then there is a 90 and the header/main runs off into the rest of the house.

    I'm thinking I'll need a drop header in order to get the height I need. I know it will take a lot of piping work to get the return reworked. Any other ideas?
  • John@Reliable_12
    John@Reliable_12 Member Posts: 24
    How about ...................

    just replacing that puppy. Depending on brand you could find a shorter boiler. Get rid of all old close boiler piping,start over done right. Better for resell I bet vs: 30 year old boiler w/ new piping
  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,557


    That was going be my first suggestion, but I know how people selling houses would rather not spend money. I think he has a buyer too, so he probably wants to do the least.
  • John Ruhnke
    John Ruhnke Member Posts: 939
    You need to talk to the buyer............

    Paul,

    Ask about doing a proposal with a credit for the basics from the old homeowner to be adjusted at closing and a system upgrade to the new homeowner. That way they both get what they want.

    JR

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  • FRANK_24
    FRANK_24 Member Posts: 80
    draft reg.

    Also, that is not the desired position of the draft regulator. They should be placed on the bull of the T. But what do I know? I'm just a plumber
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,162
    replace

    I agree with john replace that puppy it's seen better years besides tyhat draft regulator being in the wrong spot how abot that newer burner that's on it ,if i am correct that boiler used to and in all likely hood had a stack relay and a old 1725 rpm burner at one time i would not doubt that that puppy run a high stack temp and is low eff. I would try to talk to the buyer and the seller and come to some solution the piping is complete garbage and gives me a headache just looking at it but as always heard by myself it always worked fine until you touched it gotta love it peace and good luck clammy

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  • Ron D
    Ron D Member Posts: 14
    hartford loop?

    OK, for us homeowners that are just trying to understand our systems, what is a Hartford loop?
  • Ron Schroeder
    Ron Schroeder Member Posts: 998
    Ron

    Go here or call Hartford Insurance I'm sure someone there can fill you in ;-)

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  • Steamhead (in transit)
    Steamhead (in transit) Member Posts: 6,688
    I'd consider replacing it too

    due to what looks like water running down the side of the boiler below the cleanout panel. This might be condensation but also might be from a leak. If you do keep this old boiler, make sure it isn't leaking, that it isn't oversized and that the firinfg rate is correct. BTW this looks like a Utica OU series or Columbia COU series boiler. This was a knockoff of the old American-Standard A3 boilers which were built like tanks.

    This would also be a good time to check over the whole system, make sure there are proper main vents, insulation, etc.

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  • yeap

    This is a job for a real boiler pro, ,,, boiler, near boiler pipings, ventings, insulations, skimming, etc.... Don't call a furance company to do the job...

  • Jeff Lawrence_25
    Jeff Lawrence_25 Member Posts: 746
    I suggest that too,

    but....

    The new owner already has a lot on their plate getting moved in to their new castle. If it's done before, that's one less thing to worry about.

    And, the other side of the coin. The seller will put in the cheapest POS that they can get away with and laugh their way out of the house.

    I see it almost as a can't win situation.

    Jeff
  • Paul Fredricks_3
    Paul Fredricks_3 Member Posts: 1,557
    Agreed

    We are up to speed and will only do this job the right way. Hopefully the home owner will think that's a good idea.

    Thanks everyone for your input.
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