Digital Combustion Analyzers

Guy_6

I just picked up a Wohler- New to the US market. I like the features and it is easy to use. The case is huge- designed to protect the expensive stuff, with some extra space for the specialized tools that I occasionally need.
It is a fantastic tool, and lends a professional air to the job at hand.

Jon_10

Digital Combustion Analyzers

Finally saved up enough to purchase a new combustion analyzer and retire my old wet Bacharach kit. What make and model do you recommend? Is there any quirks on them to be aware of. My truck is left out at night and temps here get down to 20/30 below zero, is that a problem? How about life of the oxygen sensor and other sensors? Would like a printer with it to document job, recomendations? Reliability is a big factor.

Jim Bergmann_2

Combustion

Jon
Take a look at Testo, www.testo.com. The Testo 330-1 and the 325M are both great analyzers. Both are designed for residential/light commercial, measure or calculate O2, CO, draft, differential pressure, CO2 efficiency, and excess air. Both also have printing capabilities and magnetic backed cases. Both are available in money saving kits.

Sensor life 3 year CO and 2 year O2
Both do natural gas, and fuel oil.

I have attached a copy of our combustion guide also, hope you find it informative.

Thanks

Jim Bergmann

HVAC/R technical specialist

Josh_10

Ya I second that. I think most of us are buying Testo's for resi/light commercial work. If you are looking for something a little more industrial Ecom is on my wish list.

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Mitch_6

combustion analyzers

Have you taken any classes in combustion analyzing.

I highly recommend that you do since it help interpreting the data and you learn many ways of using your new "TOY"

You will soon wonder why you did not get one sooner.

Mitch S.

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Jim Davis_3

My guess would be you work on a lot of oil if you have a wet kit. Very few people used them on gas. If so response time becomes very critical especially on oil. Light-off/Run/Shut-down readings must all stay below 100ppm and be stable during run. You should really invest in the training as Mitch has said before you make the decision of what to buy. No analyzers should be stored outdoors below zero. I always brought them in around 10 degrees. Most have internal sensors and if they sense the temperature is below 32 degrees they usually won't run. This means you need to put it by the truck heater on the way to the job to warm it up. I have been keeping units in my vehicle for 28 years and none have been damaged between 10 degrees and 130 degrees. What part of the country are you located. Might be doing training in your area soon.

Jon_10

Combustion analyzers

My reason for purchasing an Electionic Combustion Analyzer is to improve my combustion testing. My old wet Barachard combustion kit over the last 35 years has had everything replaced at least 3 times. I feel that an electronic one will help me in my work. Yes, I have had training from the various manufacturers of burners and equipment plus the excellent background I recieved from Canton ATC and Suny Buffalo. I started working on oil burneres wih my father in 1959 when I was 14, and I'm still learning. Thanks guys for your help..

Ragu_4

Systronik Analyzers?

Just got a brochure on these. Any comments? Thanks.

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Jim Davis_3

The wet kit to me is to an electronic analyzer what a Black & White Polaroid Camera is to Digital video camera.
Never could tell if the nozzle was good or bad, if there was air in the oil lines, if oil was hitting the flame cone or combustion chamber or if there was excessive after drip etc. I believe I list combustion analyzers as 25 diagnostic tools in one and 18 repair check tools. There is alot more to a combustion analyzer than any manufacturer would normally know unless they spent tens of thousands of hours in the field(not lab)using one. Digital combustion anyalyzers are not anything close to a wet kit.

Josh_10

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I have heard nothing but great things about Systronik. I really like the display. Apparently they are very reliable. Have you heard anything on pricing? I would pay slightly higher than a Testo 330.

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Unknown

I am going to have

a combustion testing class running for three days September 18, 19 and 20 in Warren, RI if you are interested get in touch with me at gastc@cox.net or 401-437-0557.

We will be using a Bacharach Tester, Testo 330 and 325 and I hope to have a Wohler soon.

S Ebels

In the lab at Riello

Last week at the burner school we used several differnt analyzers. There was a Kane/May that worked kind of spastic, a Bach 300 that worked well but was S L O W to provide data on the the adjustment you just made. Like 2 minutes. Tweak and wait, tweak and wait, tweak and wait. We got pretty frustrated with it. The lab guys that were testing and certifying boilers were using a TSI model 900 for preliminary tuning and they said they had good results with that.

We have two 325 Testo's which we are very satisfied with. Put it this way, I don't see a need or a compelling reason to try anything else.

Josh_10

I used to have one of the high end Kane/Mays. For upwards of $10K it was a peice of junk. We had to have them for source testing and logging though for the big boilers.

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ttekushan_3

UEI Analyzers

Has anyone used a UEI (Canadian company, I think)?
If so, any impressions?
Any useful rumors?

Jim Davis_3

Actually UEI is owned by Kane-May a British Company. Some of their earlier models had their problems but the ones that my students have brought to class recently perform quite well or at least the hand held models. Just spoke with one of their product development engineers and they are heading in the right direction. I still think it is the person using the analyzer that will determine how good it is, not the meter. No matter how bad a electronic analyzer might seem to some they are a whole bunch better than a wet kit could ever be!

ttekushan_3

My wet kit

> Actually UEI is owned by Kane-May a British

> Company. Some of their earlier models had their

> problems but the ones that my students have

> brought to class recently perform quite well or

> at least the hand held models. Just spoke with

> one of their product development engineers and

> they are heading in the right direction. I still

> think it is the person using the analyzer that

> will determine how good it is, not the meter. No

> matter how bad a electronic analyzer might seem

> to some they are a whole bunch better than a wet

> kit could ever be!

ttekushan_3

My wet kit

My wet kit involves licking my finger and sticking it in the combustion gasses. Painful and not at all accurate:)

Digital would be a great improvement.