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The job looks more like artwork than functional equipment . It's not often you hear of a gas to oil conversion , and the homeowners will not be sorry for the choice .

I'm very glad to hear the gas boiler will be used to help out a customer with limited means . Make sure to post pics of that job too . Beautiful work Lchmb !

lchmb

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Just started this project. The customer wanted all of his radiant zones removed. In the last 10 year's since it was put in, it has been nothing but nightmares...

lchmb

Latest project

Just started this project. The customer wanted all of his radiant zones removed. In the last 10 year's since it was put in, it has been nothing but nightmares...

lchmb

out with gas

And in with oil...Biggest part of this project is NOTHING can squeek. I hope to have some Grundfos circulators and all hanger's will be rubber backed. We will be adding 4 zones to the house using Runtal baseboard (hope it come's in soon).

David Sutton_6

Looking Real good

make sure you post your progress. i had a custermer the same way. wanted forced air bud did not want to hear a sound coming out of reg. ...David

Constantin

wow...

... an all-radiant system being replaced with baseboard? That must have been one messed up system to drive the customer that far over the edge... The tangle of pumps with rotting fittings in the before pictuire is certainly not encouraging, however. Is this another Goodyear or similar pipe failure story?

Your setup with the supply and return on opposite sides of the boiler ought to make servicing a lot easier. I really like the manifolds and how all the pumps, etc. are in easy reach when standing in the basement. The ground-to-pipe support is yet another level of attention to detail that most installers would overlook. Yet, it might mean all the difference between a flange seal doing its job or a leak.

I also like the B&G Checktrols or whatever flange/ball valve combination you chose to install. They look really sharp and should make the service-persons heart jump with joy. Congrats, I look forward to more...

jerry scharf_3

Mupro clamps

If you haven't checked out the mupro clamps, give Leo a call. They are dead quiet and great to work with. It's not just some rubber under the clamp, it's a engineered noise control clamp.

I think anyone who uses them gets sold on them. I used them and would spec them on any job.

jerry

lchmb

Thanks Jerry

I'll have my stock room check into them. In this job I need all the idea's I can get!

lchmb

If

If you can do that let me know how!! Aren't some people incredible on what they expect...Thanks and I will post progress pics

lchmb

Hi Constantin

I wish I could say it was a bad pipe or bad this or that. In this case it was just, in my opinion, a lack of understanding. To much stress on some pipes, other pipes not tightened enough. Bolt's not tightened completely. These poor people have been dealing with water leak's, lack of heat and noise now for 10 years (during the winter the house was never above 64).

The support has been designed so that nothing is hooked from the ceiling and since I also have to service the boiler I want it as easy as possible. Thanks for the good word!!

Joe@buderus_2

Looks good so far

The install is looking good so far. It is a shame regarding the radiant floor. I believe this customer will appreciate (and check it out very carefully) your attention to the details.

Liberal Lenny

The Real shame

is that you didn't use the Buderus indirect, why not?What was the problem with those telestats, didn't Wirsbo have some sort of issue with them, did you call Wirsbo? Nice to see gas boiler taken out ( if it's still good donate to Habitat for Humanity, be a hero)and switched to oil, what do you project for the yearly saving?Is the Ecomatic contol being used?Lunch is over back to work.Why did the old system fail, it looks like your piping it the same way as the first guy did, what did the first guy set the boiler at 140 degrees for the radiant and let it rip?, need more info on this failed system, was it designed by the radiant tube company or some local guy or a guy from Vermont spreading his wings.

lchmb

phew

Ok...let me try and answer them in order...
1) I cannot answer why they didn't go with the Buderus indirect. I dont sell them but believe this was a customer choice.
2)The telestat's leaked non-stop. They should have been inverted to put the head up I believe. Not sure on this though, I have never used them. I did not call Wirsbo as I came in after the decision to remove the boiler.
3) The gas boiler is being re-used for a gentleman who could not otherwise afford one. And is actually in fairly decent shape..
4) I have no idea how much the customer has used in the past. I do know that during colder weather he was never able to bring his house above 64 degree's. This I have no doubt will not be a problem now. As to the piping, I have removed all of the radiant loops and will be installing Runtal baseboard which has been sized based on a proper heatloss.
5) As to the first system, it has been there for 10 years. The customer was not happy and did not want it repaired. He wanted it removed and remove it I did. I saw what I felt where a few mistake's in the previous system but have no desire to talk bad about someone else's work. I do know the gentleman who put it in tried very hard to make it work. And the customer was actually happy with the effort he put forth...

David Sutton_6

All i can say is...

SWEET!!!!! you did a out standing joband should be resting well! why didn,t you use a logamatic 2107?? better savings on the old oil bill . thanks for caring about what you do!! and do so well ....David

lchmb

Thanks Dave

I did want to use the 2107 on this system but the customer wanted nothing to do with it. After his problem's from the previous system he wanted a nice basic control package. I did explain the benifit to it and is something I can put in if he changes his mind. At this point it will just be the Taco 506..Thanks again...

Ted_9

Nice

Really nice work.



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J.C.A._3

Outstanding work !

I thought I was the only guy to supply an electric water heater while doing a change over. We've used a 50 gallon one for the last 3 years. We hooked up a 220 dryer plug to it and will either put it in the basement or the laundry room if wiring will be a problem.

Keeping the customer happy while going about your work, and not disrupting their lifestyle is a feather in your cap brother.

Nice piping on the boiler. I know that "gun shy" about all that new-fangled technology customer too. Show us the final! Chris

lchmb

scary but

Believe it or not the electric WH tank is staying. The customer wanted both. He intend's to shut down the oil system in the summer months (yes I know before anyone say's it). I have in the past done this to make the customer comfortable during a big install..Thanks for the comments..

Dave Palmer_3

looks great

> And in with oil...Biggest part of this project is

> NOTHING can squeek. I hope to have some Grundfos

> circulators and all hanger's will be rubber

> backed. We will be adding 4 zones to the house

> using Runtal baseboard (hope it come's in soon).

Dave Palmer_3

looks great

but won't the inspector hassle you for no swing joints on tank vents? Nice,neat and clean job,easy to clean and service,Dave

Bob Eh?_2

Look again...... The fills and vents all have swing joints but they are not too obvious due to the angle and lighting in the pictures but if you look carefully at the right vent you will see them and you can see the elbows on the left pipes.....

Bob

Weezbo

Lenny ,*~/:) Breaks over back to work!

What break ?

When you stick to it ,the job always looks like you care .

Lchmb,was there no part of the radiant that couldnt be used acceptably for warm floor base loading ? pity.had you arrived on the scene ten years ago the guy would have thought radiant was the best thing since sliced bread and toast that is an exceptionaly clean install.way to go.

tim smith

? which handtruck is that w/ the block on it.

Dave Palmer_3

sorry

I do see the 1 1/4" fill swing joints, but none on the whistles.

lchmb

actually

No there is no swing joint in there. I did not install the tanks (although I was there) and did not notice it till it was done. They have been inspected and have passed. Although in the future you will find one there...You've got a sharp eye Dave...

lchmb

not sure

But I can check the name on it Monday..It is a good hand truck and the big tires can move the full length of the frame which makes it real nice...

Dave Palmer_3

sorry

I'm a oilman, sharp looking boiler job,no head knockers.Dave

lchmb

coming from you pro's

Thank you!!

clammy

awesome

What a great lookin job beautiful lines straight and sweet .Hats off to you great work something to be proud of the HO knows they got what they paid ! Top notch work from a no bull top notch mech have a beer you deservr it ,peace and keep the great job photos coming ! clammy

lchmb

From you

Coming from you Ron that's a heck of a compliment. Thank you. I do see alot of gas to oil conversation's and think I will be seeing more in the near future. I'm still trying to keep up with you the master..;)

Tom