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steam boilers for bread bakeries

don_144
don_144 Member Posts: 27
but I should know where you're coming from.I bet this system is a dump system if you will.I mean instead of the condensate going back to the boiler it letting all thos btus
go right down the drain.

And we all know what happen to a steel boiler that constantly see fresh water.

What type of pressure or should we say velocity you're working with here?

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  • JD_3
    JD_3 Member Posts: 6
    steam boilers for bread bakery ovens

    Where can I find a steam boiler that can be used with a bakery oven? The steam is needed to make the top of the bread crispy. The existing cast iron boiler rotted out in two years. The new boiler needs to be oil fired and will be used in NYC. Does anyone know if there is a stainless steel boiler or any other type of boiler manufactured that can be used for this type of application?
  • JackEnnisMartin
    JackEnnisMartin Member Posts: 70
    Bakery Boiler

    The cleanest boiler you will get for steam use in a food application ;in my opionion ,is the stainless steel Buderius line of heating equipment. It is oil or gas fired depending on the customers preferance or need. The use of a cast iron boiler on this kind of job is counter to the reality of metal. The boiler expells water into a process application and then makes up the dispelled water with ,I am assuming, potable water laden with oxygen. This would almost certainly lead to a cast iron boiler "rusting" itself into an early grave.

    All the best and good luck

    Jack Ennis Martin
  • Jim S
    Jim S Member Posts: 82


    where do you see a stainless steel steam boiler on the buderus web-site?
  • Ken_8
    Ken_8 Member Posts: 1,640
    We service a few

    of these. They are specialty items and run 30-50 p.s.i., shooting live steam into the oven while the bread or baked goods is extremely hot (above 400°F).

    Because of the nature of the beast, they are designed to be "throwaways." Commercial bakery supplies have connections. Avis may make one, Fulton may too. The ones we service had the names rippied off years ago before we got there and we re-tube 'em about once every 6-10 years or so. Blow downs and soft water seem to help a bunch.

    Neevr heard of Buderus doing a S.S. jobbie. Might be just the ticket!

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  • TGO_54
    TGO_54 Member Posts: 327
    Buderus

    Not all the products Buderus makes are available in the USA. The ones not available here aren't shown on the website. A few years back I had information on a heat exchanger to produce steam from their standard boilers, but to my knowledge they were never imported to the US.

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  • bob young
    bob young Member Posts: 2,177


    consider fulton sylphon hi-pressure. just did a bakery in n.y.c. and that was their choice.
  • Al Corelli
    Al Corelli Member Posts: 454
    Bakery Boilers

    My good friend has a bakery in Mt. Vernon with two Weil Mclain 88s. One is 10 yrs old and the other is 8 yrs old. They operate at 12psi and dump the process steam into the oil fired ovens.

    The owner swears by Clearwave devices. That is the only thing they use to retard the corrosion from all the make up water. The previous boilers only lasted three years. The only change was the Clearwave devices. I always thought these things were snake oil, but the bakery owner swears these things are great. I have used them on Smith 19s and 28s with great success. It still seems hokey to me, but they seem to work.

    I know the install was good at the bakery, my Dad did them, and I do the non-burner service (and sometimes burner service too). Lots of flour in the blower wheels. I see the boilers frequently, as I get my bread from the bakery often.

    If you want to see them, call me and we'll go get some bread.
  • Steve Ebels_3
    Steve Ebels_3 Member Posts: 1,291
    In the Jerky factory

    We use Lattner boilers for steam cooking the meat. These are gas fired steel boilers. Not real efficient but heavier than lead. The first one we had lived for 11 years in a very rotten damp environment. When we replaced it the pressure vessel was still in good shape but the controls and the base were shot. We run a water softener in front of a standard water heater which then feeds the boiler. This helps to get rid of most of the minerals and a lot of the O2 in the waer before it hits the steamer. Currently have two running nearly 24-7, a 3HP and a 7.5HP. A LOT of water goes through those babies.

    Check out www.lattner.com and look at the WLF series for power burner gas, oil or dual fuel models from 10HP on up.
  • Ken_8
    Ken_8 Member Posts: 1,640
    Don't tell me the Clearwaves

    are magnets!

    What exactly is a "Clearwave"? Also, blowing down and having soft feedwater can also allow 10+ year lifespans; but a magnet?

    I don't think so johhny...

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