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Bradford White indirect

The Phaze 3 looks like a good tank. Unfortunately, here in Minnesota we have to have a double wall HX. It doesn't look like the Phaze 3 would pass.

Thanks for your thoughts

Larry (from OSHA)

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  • Larry (from OSHA)
    Larry (from OSHA) Member Posts: 716
    It's a leaker

    Greetings,

    My not quite one and half year old PowerCor seems to have sprung a leak on the potable side of the HX. Since it's under warranty, I suppose getting a new one won't be too hard, but knowing what I know now, I'd like to get a HTP SuperStor. Is anyone else having longevity issues with these things? I was under the impression that BW had sorted out the double wall problems when they changed it to a PEX outer cover, but perhaps not.

    I'm wondering, and please tell me if I'm out of line here, but, is there some way that I could trade up to a SuperStor without negatively impacting my contractor, (I'm not going to ask the guy to eat the BW tank, but my thought was that if he can use the new one on another job...) and I pay the difference in price for the SuperStor? Am I suffering from wishful thinking?

    Thanks for any insight.

    Larry (from OSHA)
  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    Good luck with anything from BW!

    Had the same problem and was ignored by that outfit! Gave up and installed a flat plate exchanger & pump,and kept the BW tank. Resolved to not have anything to do with BW anymore. Dan even helped me contact them to no avail. If you go for this idea, be sure to set up the GPM's to fit the system. and again Good Luck
  • Larry (from OSHA)
    Larry (from OSHA) Member Posts: 716
    still looking for opinions

    I just heard that in the last year or so BW had lots of failures of these. Anyone got any perspective and advice?

    Larry
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,732
    I like

    the Triangle Tube Phase 3 indirects. Their first-hour ratings are much better then the Bradford-White units' but they cost about the same.

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,732
    Will a

    flat-plate HX in the piping between the Phase 3 and the boiler satisfy your code?

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    I believe BW

    has some new indirect tanks on the market. Steel tanks, glass lined with a large diameter tube HX instead of that phoney plastic/ aluminum "dog"

    It's called the PowerStor and has a 1-1/2" steel HX coil with vitaglas coating. Three anode rods and 14.2 square feet of HX surface.

    Maybe they will replace the PowerCor with the newer PowerStor version?

    I think they also label that new indirect to Lochinvar.

    hot rod

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  • Larry (from OSHA)
    Larry (from OSHA) Member Posts: 716
    That would be too easy

    I've seen those and they look like a good tank. But, here we need a double wall HX, so I am kind of limited.

    Larry (from OSHA)
  • Larry (from OSHA)
    Larry (from OSHA) Member Posts: 716
    Update

    I got an email from the Director of Technical Support & Technology at Bradford White. He had seen my post here on the wall and provided some information and an offer to help.

    I think that for someone to make that effort and offer says alot about this manufacturer and shows a great deal of concern for the customer. As many of you know, what makes a company (or for that matter a contractor) a good entity or preferred entity to do business with is not just how they handle the routine stuff, it is how problems are taken care of. I was quite surprised to get an email from Bradford White and I am confident that this company will do what is needed to keep me a satisfied customer.

    I suspect that their next generation of double walled tanks will address the issues that have been brought up before.

    Larry (from OSHA)
  • Jim\"Rocky\"Kelleher
    Jim\"Rocky\"Kelleher Member Posts: 32
    Doesn't Surpise me

    Bradford White is a industry friendly Corporation, you would never see their products offered at the big box wholetailers.Great customer support, they even offer a labor allowance on some warranty work, I'm not surprised they contacted you Larry, I wish other companies would learn from them.
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