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This defies description

S Ebels
S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
Inspections are required in our state, even if the HO does the work themselves. We installed a gas furnace in the place late last fall so he would have heat in it during the winter. Our installation is not 100% complete but we left it that way because we didn't want to waste any more time on a building that was going to fail inspections. I'm talking all of them, structural, electrical, plumbing. It's a real piece of work. All the interior walls are plywood because he didn't know how to "drywall hangin mon". There is one electrical outlet in each room. Period.

He had a wood stove situated in a place that would require about 15' of horizontal run to hit the chimney. Couldn't for the life of him understand why this was a bad thing.

I really do feel sorry for him. I haven't heard back from him now for over 3 months so I should stop by and see what he's up to.

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  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
    This defies description

    So I thought I'd let the pictures speak for themselves.

    If there was ever an example of when you should NOT do it yourself............ this is it. FYI, there are no traps anywhere.

    The owner/installer is one of the nicest floks you'll ever meet. He was head of a Catholic boarding school in Jamaica, worked as a physicians assistant there also, spent 10 years in the Jamaican military police and rose to the rank of major before retiring.

    But he's not a plumber!

    YA MON!!!!
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    well

    look's like it had good pitch to drain..:) LOL what a mess!!
  • Bill Nye_2
    Bill Nye_2 Member Posts: 538
    Looks like

    Looks like he's got pitch, and at least he didn't lay any ty's on their back, he used wye and 1/8 bends. Actually better than some of the stuff I've seen. ....well maybe not. At least he tried right?

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  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718


    Oh yeah, thats called an upside down spider drain.

    PATRIOT HEATING & COOLING, INC.

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  • Jason_15
    Jason_15 Member Posts: 124
    Gas supply pipe

    Am I seeing things, or does he have PVC being used to supply gas to the water heater??
  • joel_19
    joel_19 Member Posts: 933
    ??

    What state would allow this what building inspector would sign off wouldn't they be liable for it. this is why all states need codes rules and liscenecing. Thank god massachussetes doesn;t let home owners do thier own work.

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  • Dave Yates (PAH)
    Dave Yates (PAH) Member Posts: 2,162
    In my area

    only licensed contractors are required to lift permits and have their work "inspected". Homeowners and trunk-slammers get a wink and a nod. There has yet to be one single documented case where any of our cities, townships or boroughs have prosecuted or fined anyone who works permit-less and/or without obtaining a license.

    They (the officials) outta be ashamed of their conduct and correct the ship's course, but instead they've doubled, trippled or raised fees for licenses and permits to a level where we're losing lots of work to those who blantantly work outside the rules, regs and laws.



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  • Sweet_2
    Sweet_2 Member Posts: 143
    My favorite is the drive by inspection

    when they dont even get out of the vehicle to hand their buddy a green tag. Sure does give the impression they dont care as much about the work being up to code as they do collecting the fees.
  • EJW
    EJW Member Posts: 321
    Plumbing

    Here's one I found, 2nd floor shower drain homeowner repipe. Thats my coffee on the wash machine, I've gone looking for some hard stuff to put in it. EJW
  • EJW
    EJW Member Posts: 321
    Plumbing

    Here's one I found, 2nd floor shower drain homeowner repipe. Thats my coffee on the wash machine, I've gone looking for some hard stuff to put in it. EJW
  • Maine Ken
    Maine Ken Member Posts: 531


    Installed a system a couple years ago. I got called about a month after the HO moved in. She had water leaking in the basement and just knew it was my heating pipes. I went right over and found a very wet basement. I looked around. My boiler pressure was right where I left it. no water feeding. I kept looking and found an entire bathroom stubbed into the floor joists but not tied into the drain. The HO showered in this bath everyday. Amazing how much water can hit the floor from an unconnected shower drain!! And yes it passed inspection!!!!!

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  • Boiler Guy
    Boiler Guy Member Posts: 585
    Must have been that special \"clear pipe\"

    You know the kind .......... clear glass by Corning!!!
  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,908
    In a basement


    a few years back to look at a "problem heating system" when something caught my eye. Upon closer inspection I found that the "plumbers" had used 3-3" 90's and put a trap on a water closet located on the first floor!! You can imagine what the rest of it looked like.

    These were also the same "plumbers" that installed the oil fired HWBB system. I won't even start telling you what they did.

    These "plumbers" are actually a couple of correction officers and do plumbing on the weekends for "extra" money.

    No plumbing inspection required where this house was built.

    Mark H

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  • loose cannon
    loose cannon Member Posts: 15
    You can do it, we can help.

    What's wrong with you all? Don't any of you professional plumbers know anything? A homeowner can rough in all his own plumbing, electrical, drainage ahd heat any time and any way they want -And save big bucks doing it. Just go to any big-box home center, grab a 2-page pamphlet which tells you what to do, and get to work. Or better yet go to a Saturday morning class for the master's lisense.
    They offer all the components a homeowner needs to do jobs like this, which implies that it is fine for them to do so.

    Too bad, sounds like a real nice person is about to learn an expensive lesson.
  • Jed_2
    Jed_2 Member Posts: 781
    Yup

    And you WILL pay the price, in the end, if it's not Code Compliant, one way or the other.

    Jed
  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
    Bill

    Look a little closer at the main where it exits the basement. It's hard to see from the photo but the last couple feet before the wall pitches upward about 2 1/4". Maybe that was his trap?
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