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Pool Heaters

Guy_5
Guy_5 Member Posts: 159
A colleague from out west told me of an interesting concept that they are trying: Radiant tubing beneath the driveway in series with a pool heater AND radiant tubing around inground pools.
The solar gain on the pavement works to heat the pool, the pool is a heat buffer for whatever snow melt is necessary, and the pool heater picks up whatever slack remains. If nothing else, they gain two uses from the single heater.
I have yet to hear of how well it works.

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  • Bill Nye_2
    Bill Nye_2 Member Posts: 538
    Pool Heaters

    I couldn't imagine having a pile of money so big you could burn it to heat a pool?

    But if you were in that position what would be the best way? The house has a Boderus oil fired boiler not far from the pool.

    The pool is 28' dia. , 4' deep to almost 5' deep in center. It is above ground! But it's his money right? Why not take it? I just want to do it right, any advice or recommended sites or products?

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  • I was just back at a pool heater install

    today . The customer didn't have the pool filter up and running on Friday , so we went back . We used the Triangle Tube Maxi Flo at the boiler . The heat transfer is amazing . The only part of the job I'm leery about is the pool tubing comes into the basement low . I wouldn't want to know how much water could dump into the basement if the flexible PVC or a fitting broke down there .
  • Keith_8
    Keith_8 Member Posts: 399
    heat exchanger

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    > to almost 5' deep in center. It is above ground!

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  • Keith_8
    Keith_8 Member Posts: 399
    heat exchanger

    My cousin was also concerned about the pool flooding back into the house. He mounted the heat exchanger outside of the foundation with unions and brings it in for the winter.

    Keith
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    If you really need to heat

    a pool and consume large quantities of energy, do it as efficiently as possible.

    I would think a condensing heater would be ideal. Rumor has it there are a few Munchkins tied directly to pools! That, listings aside, sounds like an ideal system :)

    I heard of some heat pump heaters if electricity and money is not an issue.

    Or a HX off the house boiler if there is enough BTU available to make it worth the while. calculate the load with pool boiler sizing charts, first off.

    hot rod

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  • Richard_4
    Richard_4 Member Posts: 40
    pool heater

    I have the same size pool and heat the water with a brazed plate heat exchanger off my boiler,its piped in with wirsbo heat pex....Bock water heaters also do a very good job.
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    I would also look into...

    .... a solar heating system, if the sun and aesthetics allow it. The energy is free and with a simple drainback system you could have yourself a reliable heating system w/o the fuel costs, HX's etc. A quick search brought Fafco's Sunsaver to my attention, for example.

    There are a bazillion systems listed on the University of Florida Thermal Performance Web-Site. I'd investigate the plastic ones for low cost and inherent resistance against pitting via chlorine.
  • ALH_3
    ALH_3 Member Posts: 151
    I have $1

    That says the snowmelt tubing is a drop in the bucket compared to what the pool wants....especially in winter.

    If the snowmelt is large it really wants to have it's own boiler and controls. If the snowmelt is small it won't affect the pool at all. If the snowmelt boiler is condensing and the pool heater is a raypak, you're not making a good trade to melt snow with the pool heater. Though the pool heater should be a condensing boiler in series with some solar panels.

    It's all very application specific.

    -Andrew
  • Joseph T
    Joseph T Member Posts: 8
    pool heat

    I haven't seen it but i would like to hear if anyone has heated the pool slab itself or wrapped an above ground pool with plates and isulation. i had an x pool contractor who really wanted to do it but the contractor talked him out of it.
  • Dave-St Louis
    Dave-St Louis Member Posts: 22
    Pool Heaters

    Bryan Boiler in Peru, Indiana make indirect fired pool heaters, either gas or oil. I think they still have a unit that can be installed outdoors. Their website is: www.bryanboilers.com
    Good luck,
    St. Louis Dave
  • Dave Yates (PAH)
    Dave Yates (PAH) Member Posts: 2,162
    pool-fired snow melt

    Man, I'd hate to have to swim in all that glycol(G)!

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  • Paul Mitchell_2
    Paul Mitchell_2 Member Posts: 184
    Plate heat exchanger

    I heat my pool with a plate heat exchanger. Works excellent and recovery is about the same as a pool heater. It gets piped a little differant than a pool heater. Flow does not go straight through because it would restric it too much and slow the return to the pool.
  • Paul Mitchell_2
    Paul Mitchell_2 Member Posts: 184


    Ney Ron
    I agree with you. I think it is better to run the boiler supply and return to they outside on a basement job. You can mount the heat exchanger outside and disconnect it in the winter. Don't want to be around if those pipes broke.
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