Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.

Real Cancer Cure that makes sense

Kevin O. Pulver
Kevin O. Pulver Member Posts: 380
Anyone who doesn't agree is likely to attack this as off topic, but what could be more on topic for everyone than their own health? This won't be popular because it asserts that there is something more we can do than simply buy more insurance. Imagine: the things you do or don't put in your body can actually affect your health. What a concept! This is easier to understand for somene who believes in intelligent design rather than random chance over billions of years. Kevin

Comments

  • ken D
    ken D Member Posts: 60
    Real Cancer Cure that makes sense

    The following (excluding these 2 lines) can be copied and pasted on a word document with .5" margins on all 4 sides, and handed out to people:

    A very brief, compact essay on the cause and treatment of cancer, all cancers.

    Do you know why white blood cells don’t attack cancer? Because the cancer has a protein lining that has a negative charge; white blood cells also have a negative charge; like charges repel, therefore they avoid the cancer and leave it alone. But, did you know that the body has 2 natural defenses against cancer (all cancers)?
    The pancreas secretes two enzymes (your first line of defense), trypsin and chemotrypsin, which are used for digesting meats, fish and dairy. Any enzymes left over, can be used to remove the protein lining on cancer, and then the white blood cells can go in and attack the cancer. If, however, you eat too much meat, fish and dairy, you may be using all of these two enzymes up for digestion, and have nothing left over for cancer. The second line of defense is vitamin B17. This travels to the cancer cell via zinc, reacts to a catalyst in the cancer cell (and only at the cancer cell) and breaks down into a glucose (used for food), hydrogen cyanide (which does little damage, or if it comes in contact with a regular cell, breaks down further into food), and benzaldehyde, which is extremely toxic to the cancer cell, and only the cancer cell. Vitamin B17 is found in the seeds of apricots, grapes, apples, pears, plums, peach and cherries (found inside the pits, but not the pit itself), basically, what you spit out and throw away. So, you may not be getting any B17 because you simply don’t eat the part of the fruit that contains the vitamin! So, you get cancer, among other reasons, because your two primary defenses were deficient. Your immune system broke down. Vitamin A, C, E, B15, maganese, magnesium, selenium and zinc also play a part. When the body gets a cancer, it responds naturally by growing tissue to try contain and encapsulate the tissue, called a tumor. The tumor is not the problem (unless it effects other parts of the body, ie impinge the intestines, etc), but the cancer cells are; which makeup usually a small percentage of the whole tumor. Treating the tumor isn’t the answer, it will only come back if the cancer still remains. Also, the cancer and tumor are the symptoms of a problem, which is why when you get rid of the cancer/tumor, it only comes back again. The enzymes and B17 don’t always get rid of the tumor, they try to go after the cancer cells.
    The body tries to attack the cancer cell, but it depends on how bad the organs are beat up from the chemo, drugs, radiation and the surgery previously undergone. It isn’t always successful, it is just trying to get the body in the condition it was designed to be in, receiving the vitamins, minerals, etc it needs to do its job of defending itself. B17, aka Amygdalin(a), and laetrile. FYI, Steve McQueen went to Mexico for treatment, had his cancer treated and was alive and well. But for cosmetic reasons, had the bulge in his stomach removed. He died as a result of a complication of that surgery, and not because of cancer or laetrile (for those familiar with him). Read further from the following: Alive and Well, by Binzel, and World w/o Cancer by Griffin, Laetrile Case Histories, Richardson. Reread this several times, slowly to grasp the concepts. It should make sense, but this brief compact essay doesn’t do the cause justice, read further on it & see a good doctor:
    Cancer Websites and Doctors using Nutritional/B17/Enzymic Therapy:
    Where to get above cancer books, realityzone.com, or Amazon.com
    Cancer Cure Foundation, http://www.cancure.org/laetrile.htm (Doctors below from this site)
    Metabolic Products Supply, http://www.metabolicproductssupply.com/index.htm
    Purchase Vitamin B17 and Apricot Kernels:
    http://www.apricotpower.com/store/default.asp?refer=gadlaetrile
    Vitamin life, b15, megazyme, https://www.vitaminlife.com/
    The Healing Company, good info on vitamins, DMSO: http://www.laetrile.info/B-17_Foods.html
    Summary of Health problems, ie cancer:
    http://www.townsendletter.com/June_2002/shortsbyjule0602.htm
    Again, list of doctors are from www.cancure.org/laetrile.htm:
    · http://www.cancure.org/oasis_hospital.htm (Famous & Popular) Dr. Contreras in Mexico - 888-500-4673
    · Dr. Beals in Maryland - (301) 490-9911 Dr. Schachter in NY (845) 368-4700 www.mbschachter.com
    · Dr. Rizov in Austin, TX - (512) 451-8149 Dr. Brodie in Nevada www.drbrodie.com 775-829-1009 Dr. Briggs in Montana - 701-838-6011 IMS in Atlanta Georgia (770) 474-4029 LifeExtension in Nevada 775-324-5700 http://www.aacancer.com Dr. Edelson in Atlanta, Georgia 404 841 0088 http://www.ephca.com
    · CHIPSA in Mexico - 800-573-9720 Stella Maris in Mexico - 800-973-7909 Hospital Bajanor in Mexico - www.bajanor.com. 1-888-294-0342 Dove Clinic for Integrated Medicine in the UK. http://www.doveclinic.com
    · Dr. Callebout in London England 011 44 207 2 55 2232
  • Floyd
    Floyd Member Posts: 429
    this is from Floyd's wife....

    it's funny how things happen...just last night Floyd found out that his sister may have bone cancer. We've been praying ever since that the doctor's might be wrong. It can happen to anyone, any time... thanks for the good info Ken, we will take it to heart...and to health! Ann

  • Gene_3
    Gene_3 Member Posts: 289
    prevention????

    but what would all the pharmaceutical companies do if we had the knowledge and were able to prevent disease??

    did you know that the FDA had a law passed that says unless they have approved something it cannot say on the label that it prevents or cures anything?? that is why all natural stuff has to put on their label that "this product is not intended to preven or cure any disease"

    they are to connected to drug companies

    take care of your body

    thanks for the info

    I tell my students that we "humans" are only here for 80-90 years if you are lucky, some don't get that, it's not enough time to do everything you can so don't sit around cause when it's gone it's gone

    what was that Einstein used to say? I'll sleep when I'm dead??

    and to keep this On topic--everytime someone dies from cancer we either lose a customer or a comrade

    also notice that the 3 beings on this planet with the highest incidence of cancer are humans, cats and dogs, the 3 that spend the most with eachother, that means it is something in our shared environment or the fact that we 3 eat so much meat.
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,600
    Which is why

    I gave it up a year ago. Good read:

    Fast Food Nation
    Retired and loving it.
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,590
    Hope is a powerful...

    ...force for healing, but the following link casts some doubt on B-17.

    Yours, Larry


    http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html
  • ken D
    ken D Member Posts: 60
    Is it a coincidence?

    One of the main points I pushed was to read those 3 books and the websites. That'll give you some insight to the pharmaceutacal companies, FDA, AMA. Do a google search, the FDA and quack watch pretty much come up to the top first choices. Is it a coincidence? I wouldn't doubt that they have someone clicking those links just to keep them up there.

    Unsubstantiated, but I heard Magic Johnson came back from China, and didn't have a trace of HIV or AIDS.
  • ken D
    ken D Member Posts: 60
    pets too

    The biggest death in zoos is due to cancer. They aren't fed the diet they would have in the wild. A monkey was given a peach which it has never seen before, it tore off the flesh to get at the seed inside.

    Dogs, cats, lions, bears, animals and humans, all need this vitamin, which isn't in our modern diets any more. It is a big problem (solvable though) with pure breeds, like a golden retriever.
  • ken D
    ken D Member Posts: 60
    Keep the topic on cancer, but a tangent

    I read you stopped running due to your joints, try glucosamine, it rebuilds cartilege and relubes your joints. Liquid in a blue container works great, berry flavor. My grandmother noticed a difference right away, and the next day went and bought 6 more bottles (2 sipps a day, the bottle will last 2 months or so).
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    By all means...

    ... follow these "insights" if you will. But I consider it snake oil to claim that white blood cells are repelled by cancer due to charge issues. Based on that, I reject the whole rest of the article.

    For example, the National Cancer Institute concurs that Laetrile has shown to be of no value in the fight against cancer. Poisoning yourself unsupervised with a quasi-cyanide compound has never struck me as particularly brilliant. I'd prefer to suffer under real medical supervision with proven chemo poisons instead.

    Cancer is a terrifying diagnosis. Based on that alone I would be on the lookout for hucksters, fraudsters, and other charlatans that claim to have miracle cures. Nothing prevents hacks from entering the medical field just like any other profession.
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Ha!

    HIV-positive patients who respond well to protease "cocktails" can have little to no trace of HIV in their blood. That does not mean that the HIV is cured... it's just not in the bloodstream at that particular time. A closer look in the nooks and crannies of the body (i.e. lymph nodes) would find HIV w/o a doubt. Then, as HIV develops resistance to the protease inhibitors, it blooms again and continues to ravage the immune system.

    As for FDA/AMA/etc. cancer conspiracy theories, I don't think they're either that organized, inclined, or motivated. Plenty of doctors die of cancer. If they knew that B-17 could save themselves or their loved ones, do you think they'd let cancer kill them? Time to pull out the tin foil hat.
  • Maine doug
    Maine doug Member Posts: 47
    Cancer in the family

    My brother-in-law, the physics guy, has cancer. My sister-in-law the biologist and my wife the chemist and he would dearly love a simple solution. Unfortunately their training and perhaps combined more than 90 years of research and experience conclude that this path is not the miracle cure. Sounds good though.
  • Kevin O. Pulver
    Kevin O. Pulver Member Posts: 380
    Don't you see what they're saying Ken?

    The MDs are the "experts" and if this stuff were true they would go that route instead of dying. Is that logical thinking? Haven't you ever noticed that MDs NEVER smoke, eat to excess, abuse alcohol, or suffer from lack of exercise? YEAH RIGHT...HELLO is anybody home?
    Do a google search for Dr. Joel Wallach (sp?) he wrote a book called, "Dead doctors don't lie." He made an interesting observation. Cows are fed vitamin and mineral supplements to keep them healthy even though they will only be around a few years compared to us humans. WHY? The answer is simple- cows don't have medicare! Kevin
This discussion has been closed.