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Natural gas filters

Mad Dog_2
Mad Dog_2 Member Posts: 7,519
You may even take it a step further and bounce that gas around with a few extra loop-te-loops. Shake that dirt right out. Mad Dog

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  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    Does anyone know of such a beast?

    I'm dealing with some old and evidently dirty gas mains on a project here in Denver. The strainer/screen assemblies on Munchkin gas valves is getting blocked with this crap and causing early (6 months) gas valve failure.

    Can anyone recommend an in line gas filter for use with natural gas?

    Thanks!

    ME

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  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928


    Web search revealed lots of filters for compressed natural gas applications (like in vehicles) and huge industrial filters for high-pressure (100s of pounds) systems but none for residential low-pressure.

    The one "in-line" residential natural gas filter I saw (from a non-US website) was a wye strainer with what looked like quite fine stainless steel mesh.
  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    Drip leg?

    remember the old drip leg. I wonder if you set one up that was a pipe size ot two larger than fuel line,to slow down the gas flow just before it enters the gas valve if that wouldn't do the trick Cheap and easy. The old gas line were charged with water to keep the caulked joints tight. and the drip leg helped dry and clean out the gas just before entering the Gas train, anyhow!
  • Mike T., Swampeast MO
    Mike T., Swampeast MO Member Posts: 6,928
    One of My Goofy Ideas

    Why not pipe in a short (1'?) section of large (2"?) horizontal black iron at the transition from old to new gas piping?

    Velocity would make a nosedive and if the particles that could make it through cause a problem then I'd have to say:

    1) particles aren't the problem

    2) suspect gasseous contaminates

  • Greg Swob
    Greg Swob Member Posts: 167
    NG filters

    Mark- we use them on a lot of industrial, (mostly agricultural irrigation) applications, but they are readily available. Happy to send you one if you wish or I could look up supplier & cost information and get back to you. The units we use are typically 1" FPT inlet/outlet, about 8" or 9" long with a nut assembly for inspection or cleaning the screens. Let me know if you'd like a follow-up on this. Greg
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    Heres an old one

    I found this on a old hot water heater.

    Scott

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  • curious_2
    curious_2 Member Posts: 4


    maxitrol
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    scott- wasn't there some

    material like brass (steel) wool in that assembly also?
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    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    More information...

    The gas main is 4" ID, and travels less than 30 feet from the meter to the loads. The loads consist of 1 each 2.5 million btuH boiler, and three 199,000 btuH boilers. I'm thinking it's not a drip leg issue, because the gas has to travel 10 vertical feet to get to the boilers, and there is a main drip leg in the line serving the mechanical room. I'm also thinking that the filter needs to be used with 11" WC gas pressures, and have a MINIMAL pressure drop on it.

    I'm also thinking it's something like a VOC that's in the gas, and not something that's being kicked into suspension due to excesive velocities.

    Thanks to all for their input so far, and I look forward to more posts.

    ME

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  • Glen
    Glen Member Posts: 855
    not for that application

    If the piping is that corroded - replace it. Even if you in stall an approved and rated strainer - it will clog and interupt service. Plus it may not be approved under your gas code. Replacing the pipe - while a pain in the neck - may in the long run save you and your client $$$ and grief.
  • bigugh_4
    bigugh_4 Member Posts: 406
    looked at filters/natgas

    and first one up was
    http://www.king-filter.com/kingdec11pub_files/page0010.htm

    St louis Mo. co. I'd bet they'd engineer your need!
  • Mark most gas utilities

    will provide them for you if you request them.
  • Dale
    Dale Member Posts: 1,317
    Filters

    Sounds like a utility problem, if it were my company we would install a strainer on our side ( as much to protect our regulator and meter ) then we would service that. We get oil sometimes and put in a drip on our main and a colacer near the customer. On your side maxitrol makes gas filters that are good quality. I'm sure there are other brands, I would also drip each run to each burner. As gas becomes more expensive other sources open up some of which may not be processed ( cleaned ) as well as some of the old transmission feeds.
  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    It IS a utility problem...

    and after speaking with one of their field supervisors, he agreed to come in and clean his mains, replace all the equipment (meter, reg etc) and install a filter that THEY will service on a regular basis. When asked if this was a probelm system wide, he said "No, only in that neighborhood. It's just dirt."

    At least they fessed up. Now if I can get them to cover the cost of the 4 valves I've had to replace, along with my labor, I'll be a happy camper.

    Thanks to everyone for their input!

    ME

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  • Noel Kelly
    Noel Kelly Member Posts: 43
    gas filter source

    Mark - check out www.fiorentini.com ( they have a distributor in Texas I believe).

    Noel Kelly
  • RadPro
    RadPro Member Posts: 90
    Natural Gas Filter

    Mark: We often see low pressure applications where we build an oversize filter to keep pressure drop down. Look at filterfabmfg.com or call me at 800-899-6927. Thanks, Ed
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