The Future?

hvac-tech

Ele. heating units are a "Continuous load" category.

So no more amps. must exceed 80 % of the branch circuit rating.
The same for H2o heater 18.7 amp draw.
And requires by NEC a 25 amp. CB. & 10 GA. wire.

a fan of Ele. heat.

Paul Cooke

Not bad....for $49,900

http://www.heatnglo.com/products/fireplaces/aqueon/aqueonhome.asp

Larry Weingarten

Certainly interesting, but...

...I wonder how much electricity is used to produce the H&O for cumbustion? Maybe a simple resistance heater would be more cost effective, but not nearly as much fun ;~)

Gordy

Very Cool !

I heard that this product was comming soon.Here comes the next generation of boiler. Just pipe the exhaust into the homes HRV, and WHA LA, fresh air. All you would have to do is figure out how to keep the house from becoming a rain forest.

Seriously though, I wonder how much electric this thing uses for the electrolisis. At 49,000 I doubt anyone who could afford it would really care. At a half gallon of H2O an hour I suppose it would be no different than a pot of water at a rolling boil in the kitchen introducing moisture into the home.

Gordy

Josh_10

Is that for real? When they say $49,900 it's almost like a joke. I am waiting for the punchline.

Very cool though. Can't wait for my next multi-billionaire customer.

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Same thing I was wondering...

"A Thermodynamic Device has been invented which produces hydrogen as fuel, and oxygen as oxidant, from ordinary or from sea water, eliminating the cost and hazard of liquefaction, storage, transmission, and distribution. The saving of this aspect of the invention alone reduces the total cost of hydrogen by about 25%.

This Thermodynamic Device is based on a new discovery --- the efficient electrolytic fission of water into hydrogen gas and oxygen gas by the use of low frequency alternating currents as opposed to the conventual use of direct current, or ultra-high frequency current today. Such gas production from water by electrolytic fission approaches 100% efficiency under laboratory conditions and measurements. No laws of physics are violated in this process.

This Thermodynamic Device has already been tested at ambient pressures and temperatures from sea level to an altitude of 10,000 feet above sea level without any loss of its peak efficiency. The device produces two types of gas bubbles; one type of bubble contains hydrogen gas; the other type contains oxygen gas. The two gases are thereafter easily separable by passive membrane filters to yield pure hydrogen gas, and pure oxygen gas."

"...it requires 249.688 Btu of energy (from electricity) to break water by electrocal fission...302.375 Btu of energy (heat or electricity) will be released when the gases, hydrogen and oxygen, combine..."

If using this process and if you forget transmission loss and other factors of the electricity it could be a highly efficient device delivering more heat energy than the electricity it consumes.

All of the above culled from Andrija Puharich: Water Decomposition by AC Electrolysis

Interesting that the Puharich's patent which might be used by this fireplace most likely expired in 2003.

hvac-tech

a lot of ELE.

the unit calls for a 60AMP. 240V. C.B.
that is the same size as a 10KW ELE. Funr. turning out
34,100 BTU.

Mike T., Swampeast MO

Exactly what I first considered. At 40A draw it was slightly below output.

Compare LRA to circuit capacity and you'll probably find more hearoom than 60A vs 40A.