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Nice job by JCA ( photos s milne)

ScottMP
ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
and upgrade by Chris. I sold the customer a new Buderus oil fired with a 40 gal. S.S. to replace the L.P. fired 40 gal. Added in the Tekamr 260 for some reset and domestic control and they have a nice new boiler.

Chris noticed the oil fill problem from the fill being back pitched in the house. That was corrected also.

Here's the old rig.

Scott


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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    And this is the new

    install. Nice job Chris, allthought you do get more room than Ron. :)

    Scott

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  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Hey that looks great!

    The old boiler certainly seemed ready for retirement, the water heater was not far behind. I like how you guys apparently staged the replacement of the WH to come as late as possible in the job to maximize the availabiliy of hot water.

    The pipe-work is also a joy to behold. Compact, yet acessible, and in marked contrast to the copper jungle around the old unit. I think I also spy two Earthlee headers, very tidy, particularly once the 90° bend was added to the supply manifold. BTW, have you guys considered using the B&G check-trols? It might be simpler than wrenching pipe, flange, and valve together...

    It's also great to see real supply pipes on the indirect water heater. The old stuff was probably good for one shower, if that. The new pipe should allow the owners the luxury of washing the dishes and taking a shower at the same time.

    I also like how you put temp sensors on every return line to make later system diagnosis easier... and the LWCO, and all the other details that make this a great install. Congrats, Chris, she's a looker! :-P

    BTW, was the on-site magnifying glass for programming the Tekmar or inspecting your work? :)
  • singh
    singh Member Posts: 866


    Nice Work !

    Where did you get the bracket for the garber filter?I can't find a source.
    And why do you need temp. gauges on return?

  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    Mount kit comes with the kit

    or so says Chris.

    The return guages are for our and others benifit. Small touch but its one more tool to use when checking the system.

    Constantine; I can't print what Chris said about the magnifiying glass but it has to do with his age :)

    Scott

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  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    nice

    Very neat job! Good timing also, I do my first Buderus in a long time and now have some idea's for it. Have to love taking a house from gas to oil...Keep up the excellent work! Reference the magnifying glass, tell him it's Tekmars fault, they make the dam screws so small...:)
  • Darin Cook_3
    Darin Cook_3 Member Posts: 389
    Nice Job


    Chris, your work is very neat as always. One more customer brought into the 21st century. Have you guys checked out the Webstone isolation flanges or purge valve assemblies? Both are big time savers and inexpensive compared to buying all the individual parts and putting them together.








    Darin
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    What, no Pro press?

    Although I do like the looks of a nice straight steel pipe job :)

    I agree with the others, this B&G threaded iso would really clean up the look and save a bit of labor and "doping"

    I have an idea for a press iso flange I'll show it in a day or so.

    Nice work, as usual. Time for some raises :)

    hot rod

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  • Firedragon_4
    Firedragon_4 Member Posts: 1,436
    Nice job as usual.

    You're lucky to have Chris, he is an asset to your firm and a treasure for the industry. I'm happy just to call him a friend.

    Nice job Mr. Aiello!!!!
  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718
    Good Job Chris

    Nice little install. Good catch turning the supply to give some room for the controls. Scott, I know you guys use Webstone iso flanges. But I was going to ask, why the Tekmar 260 and not the R2107? Just wondering.

    I know for me, sometimes I have to sacrifice the parts I want to use, for parts that are affordable for the job. Not everyone wants to pay for every deluxe product that I would like to put on.



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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    Allright Allright

    Its my fault I did'nt order the iso flanges. We usually use the Webstone flanges but I FORGOT .. O.K. !!

    Boy your guys are tough ( keep it up, thats why we come here ).

    No P/P on the header but all the piping is. I (and Chris ) like the stell headers. I like the expansion of similar metals closed to the boiler.

    I was concerned on the cost on this job so went with the Tekmar. Just sold another replacement with the Logomatic.

    Scott

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  • Joe@buderus_2
    Joe@buderus_2 Member Posts: 302
    Nice work as usual!

    Nice to see a good looking install with the little extra's that could make future service easier. Thanks for posting the pictures!
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
  • hr
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  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718
    you know

    When your good, people hold you to a higher standard.

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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Thanks To All.

    Yes, we know about iso-flanges and like them. I also have to use what's on the truck whenever possible. Like most here, a "parts run" cuts into the workday a bit more than I like.

    Like I tell the customer. A few bucks more in valves at the onset will minimize repair time down the line. They seem to get it . I finished all the little touches this morning and answered all their questions, another happy customer!
    (favorite question...what do I need to know? Answer: our phone number. End of discussion) Thanks again to all.

    Hey Scott, I really liked Hot Rods add on. You'll know it when you re-read his comments! Chris
  • Glad I'm not the only one

    who has to repipe the supply every once in a while . As a coincidence , the last one was a Buderus also . Chris , was that your idea or homies ?

    Beautiful job Chris , I hope you got Bossman Milne to give you a hand , other than to take the final pics :) .

    Is that a Contender in there ? Are they glass lined indirects ? Any trouble with the readings on the boiler ?

    We must've been trained by men of the same cloth - the way you come straight up with the pipes from the tappings on the boiler and indirect is the way I was taught also . Excellent pipework Chris .
  • RoosterBoy
    RoosterBoy Member Posts: 459


    hi Scott I never seen that brand air scoop with the hy-vent offset what brand is that. would a spirovent system be better.

    nice looking install :-)
    thanks
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Roosterboy,

    It is made by B&G. Nice unit. The tapping on top used to come 3/4" but they finally changed it to a 1/8th tapping for an auto-vent.

    Seems to work well, at a considerable savings vs. a Spirovent. Chris
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Nie work but

    I really don't see what was wrong with the old boiler. Jeez you guyz are picky. :P Actually if I won the Lottery I would go around the country and work a few jobs with all of you. How cool would that be learning from everyone on the Wall directly. ncie work as usual Chris. WW

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  • Paul Pollets
    Paul Pollets Member Posts: 3,663
    Nice, Chris!!

    Nice looking piping...Good system. Happy BDay Scott!

    Paul

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  • Gas valve

    what kind of valve do you have on the air scoop is that rated for water, I made the mistake of using a t-handle valve that wasn't rated for water,does that indirect call for a thermal trap or a mixing valve, not sure if I read that, I always trap the hot side on the indirect outlet.Try skipping all the purge valves on each zone and just having one central purge point makes it easy than switching hose bibs for each zone. Looks good, that's a great boiler.
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Jim,

    The 1/4 turn valve is rated WOG. (Water/Oil/Gas) 3 + years and no failures . I like the fact that I don't have to have enough room for a ball valve handle either heading at the exp. tank or away from it,limiting an already tight space.

    You are referring in the purge querry to "power-purge" . I would like to state that it DOES work. However....I have too much work, and not enough time to sit around waiting to purge a system.

    If you read the post to Joe@Buderus, you'll note my remark about spending a few dollars more up-front on valves, to get in and out on service/repair quicker.The money spent on those valves and tees has proven itself time and time again to the point that I will do it on all installs. If someone else comes behind me...it makes it all the easier to purge.
    I know about "powerpurge", but how many newbies do you know would be able to spot it? (time wasted).....

    I know what you're thinking now.....Zone valves. Powerpurge works very well with them if the tech knows how all the different ones in use work. The newbies around here have never even seen a Honeywell zone valve, nevermind an older "butterfly"(B) type one.

    Call me insipid if you'd like, but the guy coming in behind me will have a clue as to how to evaluate and service what I install...even the uninitiated...Understand the rational ? Chris
  • Bill Jirik,
    Bill Jirik, Member Posts: 54


    nice looking job, are those fittings on the steel pipe 150# malleable or 125# cast iron
  • Sounds good

    I like the look of the t handle your right it makes it easier for a tight spot, the power purge set up is just easier for the purging and not a lot to figure, plus I like the valve tags with a legend, all done on publisher looks neat, a far cry from the boiler installations of the past. How about pre-fab say you have a Buderus oil fired unit, do you pre fab much at the shop or do it all on the job? I'm always looking to cut labor time but not quality, I have seen your past installations posted always clean and neat great work, I have actually taken quite a few of the job site pics and put them in a power point presentation for the burner techs and the apprentice plumbers, it sure beats looking at pvc piping configurations. Thanks for the input.
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