Pro press

Nron_9

Iwould like feed back on pro press fitting good or bad ?and sizes of fittings and what type are out there ,tee 90 ,45 bushings mips ?

tls_9

pro press

Pro – labor saving
Con - fittings expensive and depending on your location may not be well stocked
Pro- safe, no flame no flux, no bottles of gas.
Con- tool expensive, can be tough in tight spots
Pro – almost fool proof
Con – when you do have a bad joint you might not know it until it releases all at once.
Pro - ½” up to 4”
Con – limited number of reducing fittings, have to double up (or more) sometimes.
Pro – makes nice looking job
Con - fittings take off more so you have to watch the close places.

I like the stuff, but as with any pipefitting you must pay attention to workmanship or you will have problems. Have a rep give you an in house training session.

The biggest problem I have had with it is back ordered parts. The few leaks I’ve seen have all been operator error, not product.

tom

singh

Any one heard anything about NIBCO press fittings? I would like to see
what they have to offer,and would guess fittings will be more readily
available. should be out soon I guess.

Weezbo

howdy singh...*~/:) do you mean the shark bite fittings?

they look heavy feel heavy and have really tight 90's. i think they are a slick thing as they can be dialed into orbit unlike the propress fitting..no special tool except a plastic clip thet allows you to push a sleeve to release the "grip" to remake a fitting by using another formation t for example....they are amazingly quick.....were i really into fixing things id buy a group of 90's and couplings

singh

No,Weezbo,

Nibco is comimg out with their own version of pro press fittings.
I tried some out at ISH,you use Ridgid tool , but press head is different (supposedly) designed only for NIBCO fittings.
I also tried the push-fit your talking about,that is a joint venture between nibco and victaulic. I dont know if those fittings will catch on though. Time wiil tell.

Rodney Summers

Europress Valves from Bonomi

Bonomi is the largest manufacturer of valves in Italy. They brand label for a lot of companies...for example they make the 64 series full port brass ball valve for Conbraco. They also make valves for a lot of the other manufacturers that you might be using. The prices have really come down now that you can get Bonomi directly from Wholesalers like Ferguson Proflo - also same as 64 series. Here is the kicker...Bonomi now has Europress Valves. They have a blowout proof stem, unlike the other guys. They also have one oring per seal so you can tell if you made the fitting up right or not right away. Competitors are using 2 oring per side and you cant tell if you have a leaker right away. The Yellow Brass that Bonomi uses passes the leech test for drinking water. Some competitors have up to 8% lead and considered legal for drinking water. I dont want my kids and grandkids drinking out of a fountain with high lead valves. http://www.bonomiusa.com/

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Rodney Summers

Bonomi Ball Valves

The thing that impressed me about Bonomi is they have an option to get the press valves with built in stem extension. That way I dont have to add it and it doesnt tear up the insulation.

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Rodney Summers

Bonomi Valves

I personally like the Bonomi Ball Valves. The handles are easy to turn and the stems never leak. I also noticed that the check valves arent noisy and I know that they are working because they dont backleak.

JackFre

Bonomi Check valves

The reason they don't rattle/leak is that there is no disc or dome shape to the check mechanism. It is actually a cone shaped thermoplastic. Bubble tight with .5# cracking pressure. What I like most about it though is rather that having the check mechanism supported only on a center stem it has lands cast into the body in quadrants as well as the center support which keeps everything square and in line. A major improvemnt over other spring type checks.

Bob Bona

they are here

and I've been using the Nib/Vit fittings. They have just made the Propress fitting and the big bux tool obsolete. I'm glad I waited. 1/2" to 2" fittings in all configs.

hr

Elkhart too

is showing press fittings. seems every week there are more press fittings and valves available on the market.

I just loaded up on Jomar press valves.

hot rod

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Steve Ebels_3

We just finished a piping job

We just finished some near boiler piping for a small commercial job, all 2 1/2" and 3". I would estimate using PP fittings for this job saved at least 8-10 hours of cutting, cleaning, sanding, fluxing and soldering.

We're hooked on it. Neat, clean, safe, no leaks what more can you ask?

John_56

New fittings

> and I've been using the Nib/Vit fittings. They

> have just made the Propress fitting and the big

> bux tool obsolete. I'm glad I waited. 1/2" to 2"

> fittings in all configs.

John_56

New fittings

You've got me curious. I looked on Nibco's web site and couldn't find anything other than the press fittings. Where can I find out more about these?
Thanks,
John

RoosterBoy

Nron

the first thing i will say is that i am slightly biased in that the experience that i had with the three and four inch fittings was a decided fornication of the mind. i really like straight and square and true. the pieces never went right or stayed straight. i clamped them to unistrut bolted them with clamps in place and the every one of them went some divergent tangent of the 360 orbit. smaller fittings like the two inch ,inch and a half, one inch, three quater seemed to stay sorta straight.... although i wasnt impressed, these sized fittings i would call acceptable. when your skills are tight i think you will be dissapointed in the way it tweaks things out of alignement.

the formations i used were T L couple 1/8 ips m and F to propress. this is another thing i found dissapointing you have to "Space" the fittings in order for the tool to not crunch up the copper, unless there is now a street T your closely spaced T's are likely to cause you grief just looking at them.

however never let it be said that i dont allow others thier own opinion:) that being said there is a tool made by Rems that will do the same thing as the ridgid tool,it weighs less and disproportionaly less expensive. it will work on approximately 100 + various press fittings across the planet currently available including the well...you get the picture. Valves were a bit of a hassel also as they required two fittings and even when making the fittings to the valve on a pipe stand they no looky too good to me.

here is another to watch for,make the fittings put a mark on them especially if you are working somewhere the lighting may be a little bit poor...the other two plumbers working with at the time were as enthusiastic on spinning the propress in at the time as i,yet each one of us eventually came to about the same conclusion. it is probably more desireable to use this tool for piping you dont want to look at like up in the red iron or utilidor , or utility corridoor...4"L cost too much to watch in horror as the tool twists one way or the other rent one first.that way you dont have to Own it and justify reusing it over and over again to find some new trick that might make the time and effort you have invested in your workmanship look like You did the work.

as you are aware there are alot of fittings that you spin in that have a gangster lean due to the tapps on the manufactures side especially "Black Iron" fittings,there is only so much you can do with a swing joint to make it conform in the case of a red brass t i picked up a few weeks ago the thing went off at a 15 degree angle...the threads were clean just cut in at a wack angle....i took it back and asked them if the rest of the red brass was of comparable quality..... sorry ...i probably should chill out as i am meandering from the focus slightly... thing is there is alot of speed that you can put things together however will it resemble your workmanship and skills or will it conform to the whims of every turn and change of whatever sh lady luck happens to hand you?

my thought Hand it back in Spades.

Bob Bona_4

just call

A Winnelson Company..I know my local Win just dedicated an entire aisle for the push fittings. I know there is some "protection" between the push and press systems.i.e. a wholesaler cannot sell both.

Perhaps Nibco hasn't got it up on their site yet?