broomell receiver

Robert Pastor

> I have vapor vacuum steam system with a broomell receiver that is still connected but missing the guts. The system has not been converted to a conventional steam system with air valves. When the steam comes up in the morning the
receiver steams up and fills the basement with steam because there is no float ball inside. I am looking to replace the boiler and would like to know how to eliminate
the receiver. Can I install and condensate pump to replace the receiver and if so how do I size it for the job?. I would appreciate it if there is anyone that has done this in the past and if so could get back to me as soon as possible.
Thanks, Robert

John Conway

Is more better?

Just a homeowner here. I can't address your problem with the receiver and its missing innards. Nevertheless, why would you wish to complicate a simple & solid system? I've got an old steam system that has been hacked with zone valves, a condensate pump, etc. My goal is to get back to the simpler gravity system it once was. The condensate receiver & pump add elements of complexity. For example, what powers the pump when the ice storm kills electric service? I should think a pro could develop a simplier, better solution.

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A little history of vapor systems

The first two pipers had no receiver, and they burned solid fuel. When the fire made a little too much steam pressure, the water left the boiler. This made the need for recievers obvious. They put the water back into the boiler.

The problem that they cured was over-pressure in the solid fuel, non electric boiler.

We don't have that problem anymore. Unless you have a boiler that cannot be switched off electrically, the thing is already past it's usefulness.

Of course, if the installer doesn't CHOOSE to regulate the steam pressure, the water will still leave the boiler. The steam pressure must be controlled by a 0-16 OUNCE vaporstat.

The water won't stack up outside the boiler if you control the pressure. If you don't control it, then you would need something like your receiver, or your other idea, to "fight back" against all of that wasted run time and steam pressure.

Of course, you won't have steam in the returns anyway, if you run it at the correct pressure. That thing can just sit there and vent all day long.

Read up on it. You'll find out it's worth it.

Noel

Mad Dog

Yes, as Noel said, you don't need it anymore

as coal is no longer used. It can be eliminated, but it is a job for a seasoned steam pro. What region of the uSA are ya in? Mad Dog

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