Gas mileage fee?

Carl PE

Put me down as a "fanatical objector".

The road tax is already figured into the gas price. Use more gas, pay more tax. It's not completely fair, but it works.

It's time for a few more people to convert to home-brewed fuels, in my opinion. I've got my sights on a big ugly diesel crew-cab and a few buckets of french fry grease, as soon as it warms up enough to finish my solar project.

In conclusion, there is no [expletive] way I'm putting a [expletive] GPS on my [expletive] truck. It's none of anybody's [expletive] business where the [expletive] I [expletive] drive. [expletive] 'em!

Ok, I feel better now. Pardon my language.

Weezbo

What do you think of the gas mileage fee?

A? taxing A? I wonder if there will be contientious objectors ...and i wonder if the Oregon gas stations going to refuse service to outa staters...and what is the sudden on rush to figure out some new way to directly eliviate us of our dollars...and in oregon what would the reason be for the new cars to track our every degree of freedom on thier state roads? some lawyer should figure out some way to Sue the Bs@*$T*#$ds! by bye infringement on our degrees of freedom....

Weezbo

i thank you for the courage to say what i was thinking..

exactly how the government figures ,more ways to whittle down the rights of the American citizen and why everyone sheepishly follows along with it are two things i find truely remarkable. I have thought this to be an over reaction to having made mistakes in the past ,and coupled with a general apathy not to rock the boat. the last time that i became involved in changing perspectives

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cost me severely..
Seems to me there are a great many issues i saw comming that while it hammered this community, did manage to make it a far better place to live today..there is a problem though the federal government seems to decide to take positions on some idiotic point then up holds the insanity against all opposition...The states just whimper away like some dog with thier tail between their legs... When the states come up with some goofy idea like this, the folks should say wait a minit here...this is B.S. my idea is as a people, we actually can make this place a tighter form of democracy....however it takes bringing people together,communication and accurate information,and offering some solutions to a problem... having your own propaganda machine wouldnt hurt either...maybe that is what these blog things are about......could be Dan The Man was seeing the writing on the wall....

jerry scharf_2

paying the cost of repairing roads

Now I know people don't like to hear details when they are ranting about taxes, but I think it's important to know you get paying the freight and who is getting off light. The best reflection of this cost is one based on miles traveled times axle load raised to some exponent.

There are only a few things that kill roads. The first is improper drainage, and those are on the road builder's shoulders. The second is road cuts. Even with the saws they use now, each cut cuts the road life around half. The third thing is weight deflection cracking.

I love those signs on the back of trucks complaining how much they pay in road taxes, maybe $2k. One overweight big rig can do more damage than that on a single cross country run. The taxpayers subsidize the truckers by paying far more than their share of the road repair compared to the wear inflicted. A Toyota Corolla size vehicle could run over a road thousands of times and not do the damage of one of those heavy machinery transports. If not for heavy trucks, interstate class roads would last almost as long as the Appian Way.

On the old turnpikes of the horse and buggy days, they charges based on the width of the wheel. PAH, you live near a couple of the old century road historical toll booths. The wider the wheel, the less ruts produced and the lower the fee. Above a certain width, the trip was free. Now that makes sense to me!

jerry