Burnham PV85WC-TBWN or Weil McLain WTGO-5

Matty Settipane

I am taking advice from some members on the board from my last post as well as my Heating Serviceman. Now I am trying to decide between a Burnham PV85WC-TBWN or a Weil McLain WTGO-5. Is there much difference in quality? Is there something that distinguishes one from the other?

I received a quote for an installation of the Weil McLain WTGO-5 a new purge station for the downstairs and new purge valves for the other three stations (sections). He will also add another back flow valve (two is code in MD). The price was $4600. Does this seem right? What does the WTG0-5 go for?

Thanks for all the help so far.

Regards,

Matty

Mark Wolff

boiler differences

First let me say that we install both the Weil McLain Gold Oil Series boilers (WGO and WTGO - T standing for tankless coil) AND the Burnham V8 series boiler.

The Burnham V8 series is physically shorter, but deeper than the WM. The sections are thicker and weigh more than the WM sections. We always get both with the Beckett burner so there is no difference there. The triple aquastat and primary control are both identical from Honeywell. The circ pump on the Burnham is a Grundfos UP15-42F compared to the Taco 007 on the WM (some might disagree, but the Grundfos is slightly better than the Taco, if for no other reason (there are more) than the higher head and velocities it can pump compared with the 007). The Burnham V8 comes with a burner box which cuts down on noise from the squirrel cage in the burner, the WM doesn't.

The biggest difference other than that is that the WM and Burnham have inlet and outlet piping OPPOSITE each other. The WM supply is on the right with the pump returning on the left; the Burnham supply is on the left with the pump returning on the right.

Both meet Energy Star guidelines for the 5 star plus home energy rating, however the Burnham (with the same equipment as the WM) achieves about a 1/2% better efficiency rating.

Apples to apples they are very similar; if I have the choice I put in Burnham, but if the customer is comfortable with the Weil McLain brand and requests it, that goes in without any concern on my part. Both are excellent boilers.

Al Letellier

boiler choice

Weil Mclain, any day, any time, any where for any application. Just flat out a better boiler. Try using the Carlin Burner in the WTGO. It's a lot quieter and smoother starting. I won't list me reasons for not choosing Burnham, 'cause I believe in begin fair, but I'll take a Weil anyday.

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either 1 you get that is a good price for your area /for that kind of boiler--

Tom M.

I agree with Al

Also, the Carlin doesn't need a sound cover and the WGO and WTGO have built-in air elimination so there is no need for an air scoop or spirovent.

Tom M.

STEVE N

I MAY BE A LITTLE BIAS BUT THE WEIL IS A BETTER BOILER. BEFORE I GOT INTO SELLING I WAS A CONTRACTOR, I HAD SEVERE BACK INURY, SO TOOK A SALES JOB. THE FIRST THING I LEARNED WAS HOW GREAT WM IS TO WORK WITH. IF THERE IS A PROBLEM THEY JUMP ON IT AND MAKE IT RIGHT. THERE TEC SUPPORT IS SECOND TO NONE AND THEY ARE ON THE LEADING EDGE OF TECHNOLOGY WITH THE NEW ULTRA BOILER. THEY ARE INCREDIBLE!

STEVEN

Al Gregory

I was always a Burnham man, The main difference is WM uses orings between the sections and Burnham uses push nipples. For FHW a Burnham with a Carlin burner. Price seems fair