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hot water boiler problem?? help !!

Matt_29
Matt_29 Member Posts: 12
I have a residential gas hot water boiler, 4 section 85,000btu unit..all brand new 1" copper piping to the three (3) radiators, continuous loop system, bladder style expansion tank, air purger and vent..problem is the boiler feed valve allows fresh water in at 12psi..thats fine, however when the system heats to 180 degrees the water pressure rises to approx. 19-22 psi, thats ok too, but when the systems returns to room temperature, the water pressure does not return to 12 psi on the boiler gauge, it remains high at 19-22psi, even after I deliberately shut down the system for a period of time to check the water pressure accuracy, any ideas ??? the water pressure is slowly continuing to rise and I fear that it will pop off the relief valve as it approaches 30 psi.. thanks for any help!!

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  • Robert O'Connor_7
    Robert O'Connor_7 Member Posts: 688
    Matt..

    Try and turn off the feed valve to it and see if the pressure stays constant...Robert O'Connor/NJ
  • Dale
    Dale Member Posts: 1,317
    feed valves

    They don't work all that well which is why the instructions say to leave them valved off except for purging/filling. Shut it off and drain off to 12# and see what happens. A low water cut off is good insurance too.
  • Steve_35
    Steve_35 Member Posts: 546
    Where are

    the system circulator, expansion tank and fill valve located in the piping?
  • Matt_29
    Matt_29 Member Posts: 12


    yes, the circulator, expansion tank, fill valve are all located in the piping!!
  • Steve_35
    Steve_35 Member Posts: 546
    Are you funning me? :)

    Where in the system piping are these devices located relative to the boiler?
  • Matt_29
    Matt_29 Member Posts: 12


    yes I was funning you! the air purger with vent and the expansion tank are located in the same location just after the boiler in the supply line and the circulator is located in the return line just before the boiler!
  • Steve_35
    Steve_35 Member Posts: 546
    And the fill valve

    is located where in the system? Not on the suction side of the circ by any chance?
  • Matt_29
    Matt_29 Member Posts: 12


    the Taco fill valve is located after the ball-valve shut-off and just before a 1/2" threaded tee between the air purger and the expansion tank
  • Steve_35
    Steve_35 Member Posts: 546


    Other than circ location which shouldn't cause the problem you're seeing all sounds okay. I'd try as someone else suggested.

    Close the fill. Drain the pressure down to 12psi cold. See what happens then. You may have a bad fill valve.

    Is there a domestic coil or an indirect water heater connected to the system?
  • Matt_29
    Matt_29 Member Posts: 12


    There is no other additional system connected. my feeling is, it's the boiler feed valve also, I will watch the pressure readings as I have great heat now and since it is very cold outside, I will wait before I drain and repair/ replace parts!! thanks for the tips!!
  • Rudy
    Rudy Member Posts: 482
    boiler pressure

    check fill valve-pressure in expansion tank.(12psi with 0 system pressure).also check size of tank. extrol 30??
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    what size and type of by pass do you have?

    maybe you are having some severe pressure temp things going on un related to the expansion tank...
  • Matt L.
    Matt L. Member Posts: 12


    There is no bypass, it is a simple closed loop system with only (3) radiators, the gauge on the boiler is a two part gauge, one reading is for water temperature which appears to be exact for the setting of 180 degrees, and the other is water pressure, which seems to get too high at normal boiler temp operation, almost 30 psi at 180 degrees, just seems too high to me...everything is brand new, everything!!
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