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clammy
clammy Member Posts: 3,094
Maybe it's me and times and the way things are now done but who's responablity is it to replace old equiptment most notable tools and dies ? If higher up are told many times the need for lets say new wheels and rollers or just new steel pipe cutter becaue the presents ones being used are not the companies and finnally fail is it my fault that even though i have a very limited time frame and group of supply house to get the stuff from is it not the companied responablity to supply this stuff .As it is i've supplied everything from steel pipe cutters adjustable dies from 2 1/2 to 4'' new pipe wrenches 3 and 4 ft to ladder ,jacks to chop saw to porta band saw ?Is it me am i outta touch or is it that the bosses don,t really put any money back into the co for tools that i believe they should be suppling have time changed that much is this the way of the newer preppy upper management and when ever they do by something it's some off brand cheap pos outta a northern tool catalog .i know good tools cost but should the mech be thye one to buy all this stuff if so no wonder there are so many one man shows being you've brough all the stuff and it is your correct .Today i start to pull my stuff out and bring it home i know that if my stuff gets busted they'll never get me the replacement parts or pay to get it fix let me know is it me ?peace clammy
R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
NJ Master HVAC Lic.
Mahwah, NJ
Specializing in steam and hydronic heating

Comments

  • Empire_2
    Empire_2 Member Posts: 2,343
    Owner is cutting corners

    Basic hand tools, some meters etc, you should buy. Pipe cutters, Wheeles Dies,.The co should buy. They are making money off you and your investment. If this continues, consider writing it all off. Also look for a company that invests in the necessary tools to do the job. OR you could,...Charge them back for writing implements, any paper used, ect. See how they like the back charge.
  • Ted_9
    Ted_9 Member Posts: 1,718


    I agree with Empire. You should have your own hand tools. Larger items like power tools drills dies threaders etc. are the companys responsibility and a write off for the company.

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  • jackchips_2
    jackchips_2 Member Posts: 1,338
    Responsibility

    is dictated by the company you work for. If they are to stringent you can seek remedy through, dare I say it, negotiation.

    Our 70 plus plumbers and apprentices are responsible for their hand tools and torch. Everything else is provided by the company which includes power tools, ladders and any rental equipment required. This includes all repairs and replacement but there is a clause for continued carelessness.

    Where problems can arise is when a company changes the "rules" after hiring someone. Employees should be told during the pre-hire process what is expected and basically when hired they are agreeing to the policy. The policy should also be in writing.

    We do have some mechanics who prefer their own power tools but if they do it becomes their responsiblity to take care of it.

    Please do not confuse this response to your question to what others feel is "right". Two different issues.

    Jack
  • oil-2-4-6-gas
    oil-2-4-6-gas Member Posts: 641
    .

    take all of your large tools home --tell them you either want a rental fee from now on or replace and repair as nessecary --if they don't like it tell them to buy their own --
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    In a perfect world

    you would sign an employment agreement, when hired, which states what you are required to bring with you and what they supply.

    Maintenance of company owned equipment, should be a no-brainer. Hard to install quality leak proof piping when the threader dies rip all the pipe you try and thread :)

    If the compant thinks it is cheaper to do all the threading and pipe cutting twice... oh well.

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  • jim lockard
    jim lockard Member Posts: 1,059
    I am with oil

    Clammy --Take your heavy artillary off the job, If the company you work for wishes to be in business I suggest they buy some tools and stop munching off of the employees.
    Can see the want ad now Heater Wanted must have pipe machine with abilty to cut and thread up to 4" steel.
    yea right Best Wishes J.Lockard
  • EJW
    EJW Member Posts: 321
    Tools

    There was a magnet on our fridge when I was a kid that said, "Only in a fool's world, would jewels be worth more than tools". EJW
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    Hey Clammy

    I agree with everyone else here. Although I supply 85% of the needed power tool's, the company I work for replaces with equal or greater value. The day the company were to tell me if I use them and break them it's my problem I would park the truck long enough to unload. I have in the past worked for a company that would replace with five and dime equipment. I removed all of my power equipment and they started crying. When I explained I buy good quality tool's and didn't appreciate junk back they stopped. Good luck and Happy Holiday's!!


  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    you ok . big companies are weird.

    their pos breaks so you pull the cutter wheels out of your large diameter hand pipe cutter, so it will work..will you ever see them a gain ? I dont Think SO. everyone and thier brother walks around in the connex box picking up your tools and materials and yard them off that too will grow wheels and hitch hyke off...i ask a guy "Who gave you permission to come in here and take off with my materials?".....oh well we are taking over the camp now. fine buh just because i put something down doesnt make it yours. i have to think the old saying "Whats Yours is Mine and whats Mines me own" is basically the general trend these days. Really Big companies think that way..me ,uh uh. i worked many an hour day and night for the aluminum 3 and 4 foot wrench and some of the other things these guys felt obliged to remove... even though its all Gods any way some of these tools are better friends than some of the people ive met. Atleast i Know That 4 &5/8ths drill bit has been trying to kill me for 30 years :) its like the other old saying "Funny,how Your money always looks better to the other guy when he has it in his hand"........i going with the roll on this one dont be like me and watch the "journeyman" they gave you take a hammer to your 1/2" timberwolf in stead of a chuck key... hey it hasnt been right since do i want some new fangled POS no way! can irepair the old one ? Man i have done everything except make a new one.and the thing still needs a rap on the key with a hammer after it turns loose on the flat... you take your tools home they like you a heck of alot more....as for parts for the threaders man Where does it End? holy toledo where do i get new parts for my hand held threader...? :)i priced them on east coast once...Whews man i could buy a new 1/2 horse power threader with heads :)))
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,094
    Thanks

    Thanks for thr responces and advice as we speak some of my stuff is sitting in the warmth of my basement and as for them buying new cutting and stuff since i finished the last tank job with a little luck all will be forgotten until next weeks job then the bs starts again after i mention something 3 or 4 times i like them just let it ride until there's a promblem amd i tell them what do you think this stuff will fix it's self it's not wine that get better with time it's junk and i walk away .Thanks again and happy and safe holidays to all peace clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,743
    tools

    We supply all tools, hand, power and heavy. We sometimes have to get on our bandwagon about keeping track of tools but on the most part it has worked for many years. We always want the people to have good quality equipment to get the job done efficiently.
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