Dry fired steamer

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replaced this one a few days ago . It was in very sad shape for a not so old Peerless . The steam went into a bull tee . One pipe went down the house and the smaller pipe went right to a radiator . The 2nd pic is of the floor , or lack of a floor .

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Burnham V84

I wanted to put this one on solid blocks , but the end of the main was too low already to go this route . So we used every coil plate we had , about 10 of them . Levelling a boiler in dirt and connecting it to 2 inch pipe is the worst . It took us over an hour to get it to line up right . We also broke out that bull headed tee on the main . We had to use some copper for a high return on that one rad . Type L pipe and strong solder , it should hold up fine ( knock on wood ) .

J.C.A._3

OOOO-OOO That Smell,

Can't you smell that smell? (Lynyrd Skynyrd, Street Survivers)

Hey Ron, a few years back we did an emergency replacement of a steamer and had the same flooring. For the first time I tried some Sakrete quick setting cement. After mixing, pouring and leveling it, we went to lunch. An hour later it was ready for the boiler. I must say I was pretty impressed! I know you guys don't always have time for such things but I thought I might bring this to the board for some input.

Anyone else ever used it? Chris

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Just an hour ?

That is a quick drying time . We could actually build alot of the boiler and pipe the header while the floor cures . The problem was that noone knew the condition of the floor till we got there .

What about hydraulic cement ? I know that stuff cures within a minute . Might be too fast of a cure time for a big area . And it might not be strong enough to hold a 700 pound boiler . Do they make a quick curing type cement , like within a few minute cure time ? Thanks alot Chris for the idea .

J.C.A._3

Like I said,

We went and had lunch. When we returned, we were able to set the boiler in place on blocks (I know, luxury for your closet jobs!)and it was ready to pipe. Didn't notice any pock marks after moving the boiler into place.

I've never tried anything fast drying before, and will tell you that you shouldn't touch it while working around it for a while. That stuff was HOT!. That was the quickest I've ever seen. Chris

lchmb

again

I (someday) will have to try just installing...:) You do some nice work!! Have I said that lately. Hate to tell you this but I have to do a steam system next week and will be stealing your piping arrangement for it....:) Love the look of the drop header!! Keep up the good work..

Constantin

Cement is nifty...

... We had a similar situation under our furnace. Someone at some point decided to pour a cement "rat slab" in our basement (1", if that, thick). Under the oil furnace, there was nothing but dirt b/c evidently every heating appliance that had occupied that space and hence prevented the floor from being extended under the furnace.

It was a moot point for us, considering that the whole basement, walls and all, was about to become history.

Nice install! I like the drop-header and the usual neat, clean installation technique. As usual, your wiring technique puts the rest of the stuff in the basement to shame. I like your new interface with the local steam system, should provide drier steam and hence better performance. Do you consume spinach before these installs?

On a lighter note, I second keeping a well-sealed sack of fast-drying cement in the truck! Just think of how convincing your overdue-account collection technique becomes as the stuff hardens around your customers ankles. ;-)

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This basement had the same rat slab

Just dropping tools on the floor you could see it was a thin coat . The original boiler must have burnt through in a short time .

I took the pic before we clamped up the wiring . It's the most overlooked part of the jobs we see , and the easiest to make look great . No Spinach , but Danny went out and got us some jalapeno and cream cheese taquitos from 7-11 , that'll put a fire under anyone's **** .

Good idea about the cement shoes . From what I hear , the vast majority of our customers pay on time . Having heat is a good incentive to pay . Thanks alot Constantin .

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You are a better man than me

I can't switch from install to service easily . It takes a certain breed to be able to diagnose many problems in one day , instead of fixing one boiler .

The drop header gives you an extra swing to make up to the steam main very easily . Once Noel turned me on to it , I never install a boiler without it . Can't wait to see the pics of the steamer . Thanks alot Lchmb .

Robert O'Connor_7

Ron Jr.......

We just did a double WM 980 job where there was aprox. 18" of fire brick under the old boiler. We bit the bullet and acually poured a pad on top of the old brick. Nice looking job..PS...I thought the 7-11 jalapeno and cream cheese taquitos made fire come OUT of your a@@, not under it..Robert O'Connor/NJ