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Caught in the act!

J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
For all you wethead doubters.....here it is A picture of Milne WORKING!

We just finished my first Vitodens and the companies second. Here's a few shots. Chris


  • jackchips_2
    jackchips_2 Member Posts: 1,338

    Sure looks like a Disney book to me.

    Great job as usual, Chris.

    Who will read the manual while Scott is gone?
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    nice layout

    I like the design and the thought to service. Very nice neat work!! And he opened the book, thought the book was just to scribble the coffee order on...:)
  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    Nice job guys....

    I know what Scots doing. "Is it BCCB or CBBC???"

    It's Bill Clinton Chases Broads...


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  • joel_21
    joel_21 Member Posts: 16
    NO No No

    The book is where he writes down my cell phone number for help....Kidding nice job guys!
  • joel_21
    joel_21 Member Posts: 16

    I noticed you used gate valves with temp gauges above them. Did you do that so you could adjust them for a particular temp drop/flow rate as opposed to using ball vales?
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981

    This was my personal decision to use globe valves to balance the system. There are about 24 radiators in the home all feeding from 1 pump with a single split feed and return. The zones are split front and rear. The front feeds have a couple more large radiators than the rear feeds. In the old set up, they were using 1-1/4 inch gas cocks as balancing valves.They work, make no mistake, but tend to make things a bit noisy, much like trying to throttle something down with a ball valve. The globe valves have a "step type" flow through them and tend to even the flow nicer than a single pass valve, making them quieter and with a fine thread on the stem, a lot easier to control the return flow. By closing the valve on the left about 2 and a half turns, it brought the return temps to the same reading after about 30 minutes of running time.(We're talking some huge radiators in this joint!).

    This being my first Vitodens, I'm going to say that I'm pretty impressed with it.The install took a bit longer than a "normal" install, but I think it was mostly me wanting to get it right the first time. Thanks for the kind remarks. Chris
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
    Not only on the job

    But in the office :(

    Chris did a Great Job on this install. I was really proud of the sale since the owner said it was my passion for what I did that sold the job.

    Chris's install shows the "passion" runs thru the whole company.

    One last quote before its home to Pack.

    Marks right... Bill Clinton Chases Broads :)

    Great Photos Chris.


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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Thanks Boss.

    This is the kind of thing I've always wanted to do but didn't think I had the talent. I'm getting as critical as you.....and I guess it's starting to show!

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to do these things. I would be wallowing in some Godforsaken basement doing the oil thing if it wasn't for your persistance...My boss.....I think I'll keep him.

    Have a nice trip. Relax, your company is in good hands. (scary stuff....oooooooh) Chris
  • Did Scotty suffer

    from " Bucket **** " after he was done playing around ?

    Excellent craftsmanship Chris . It must've been a tough job to get to look great with that big waste pipe octopussing all over the place . I see you're becoming a pro with the crimp ring system . Are the fittings readily available ? I asked about them around here - ever have a counterman look at you like you just got in from Mars ? It happens alot over here .

    I can't say enough how good your work looks . Keep the pics coming .
  • Dave Yates (PAH)
    Dave Yates (PAH) Member Posts: 2,162
    Here & I thought BCBC

    Broads Chase Bill Clinton?!? Isn't that what the library is all about? Shhhhhhhhhhh.

    Say, is that a cast iron stack vent or a vent stack?

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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884

    show what you had to work around before it was ripped out.

    Tell em how warm the cement floor was.

    I gotta go get this bucket off my ****.

    Thanks Ron :0

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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Thanks Ron,

    The supply houses we deal with are finally realizing the worth of the Propress system and the fittings are getting much easier to find.By asking for a particular fitting a few times, the computers they use are seeing that they aren't in stock and are pumping out sheets with request for different than "normal stock" type fittings.This is a good thing.

    If the counter person has to ask....they don't have it and they don't know anything about it. Sad, but true.

    You've seen this job from beginning to end and thanks for the good words. As far as "buckettass " comments, I suggest you ask the lovely Betsy, I bet she'll give you the real answer!( badoomp....ching). Chris
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Hey PAH,

    What's all that stuff about a vent stack and the like? I don't do POOP ! I'm the "heat guy".

    Here's the before picture.Now for something completely different. Chris

  • From one fellow sufferer to another , Scotty . I hate those buckets with the raised round ring in the middle . I call it a crap circle .
  • Paul Pollets
    Paul Pollets Member Posts: 3,656
    Vito Low

    That boiler's sittin' low on the wall!! Your knees might be a bit sore, eh? Nice job with the ProPress, Chris.

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  • eleft_4
    eleft_4 Member Posts: 509

    Haaaayyyy Chris,

    Don't you feel a little guilty, like the cat that ate the canary, with that Propress.

    Nice work as usual....uh what did you do with the old one?

  • Darin Cook_3
    Darin Cook_3 Member Posts: 389
    Excellent Job

    I hope you didn't hire that guy doing the control work from the same place I get my "electrician" from. Nothing but trouble. The job came out great. Make sure you get back in touch with your customer after the winter and compare last years gas bill to this years. The energy savings will no doubt be staggering. It looks like you guys are getting your moneys worth out of the propress. Milne p&h have once again produced some great work.

  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
    Thank You Darin

    Ask Chris about the floor under the old boiler. It was still warm hours after the boiler was removed ! Where was THAT heat going !

    This is by far the Coolest Boiler we have ever installed.


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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    The floor,

    The old boiler was removed by around noon on Tuesday. Scott came in to check progress about 3:00 and was standing on top of where the old boiler stood wondering where was he feeling the heat from. The floor was still warm from 40 some years of a 1/2 ton of cast iron and firebrick sitting in one place. On wendsday morning, I could still feel a bit of warmth from that spot. True radiant!

    Paul, about the low mounting. I really had no choice. The series of events that had to take place limited my mounting options severely. I didn't think I would be able to get 3 pounds in a 2 pound bag....but I did!The system side of the LLH was smack up against one of the old returns before the removal.We promised to only have the heat down for 1 evening and it worked out just as planned. I love the recommendation that the boiler be about 6 feet off the floor, but that wasn't in the cards here. Thanks for the kind words. Chris
  • Mike Kraft_2
    Mike Kraft_2 Member Posts: 398
    geeeeeeeeeezzeeeeeee you two could have a bit more enthusiasm:)

    Is there no stopping them?Milne & Co. bang out another!What was the time frame on this install?The old Weil looks tired!How about the Milne crew?Very nice.

  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981

    In all actuality...I finished this job this morning. I finally got the chance to tie in the kitchen zone. It was an add on to the contract and I really hadn't had any time till this morning. Total time including the add on was about 1 and a half days longer than any normal install.(working against the wall and not having the heat down for more than 1 evening)) The 1/2 day being the time to figure the placement of all the related pieces .

    Passion runs deep here, I guess that's a good thing! Thanks CHEESE. I try. Chris
  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
    just have to know...

    What stuff is that beautiful white background?, if specialized, where to buy? – tnx
    Couldn’t find it on the vie$$mann web site
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