Counterflow steamer replacement

Unknown

because we've only seen a handful of counterflow systems , and the last one was over 10 years ago . Just 1 equalizer on one of the 2 boiler risers , and not piped up to par . The stairs were fun , they end right in a wall - what else is new ? But check out the floor supports . I'm guessing the couterflow pitch won't last too long .

Unknown

Not sure if we piped it optimally

It's been a long time since we worked on one . Any comments would be appreciated . I wanted to drop the counterflow returns in 2 inch at least 18 inches , but it seemed like overkill with these short mains . The job coulda been neater . I wanted to do something different with the oil line and the header piping could have been more straight . Oh well , it should perform better than that old spaghetti system . We also wanted to get out before the floor caved in on us .

clammy

looks top

Looks really good man gotta to have loved that last step or two and the wall of course . Did you guys just hump it off and over those last steps it always a eye opener .I would have to believe that she making some real dry steam and the sight glass isn't even surging with that drop header and full riser excellent .Is that a vapor stat i see there also good stuff as usally ron excellent job neat and clean how many section and whats she firing ? Again great to see your stuff again peace clammy

Constantin

Looks like a great job to me...

... but then again, I'm a mere homeowner. I hope their carpenters will do as good of a job fixing the rather scary floor joists while there is still time... and that the junk in the basement won't flood back towards the boiler from its temporary perch in the back of the boiler room.

oil-2-4-6-gas

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those stairs are cake, plank it let it slide --why no cast fittings --??

Unknown

Looking around the basement

I think the boiler will outlast anything else down there . The 2 bent 2 by 4s were propped in there because some idiot notched the lower part of the beams for a radiator pipe - the joists split down the middle . Thanks Constantin .

Unknown

You got it

The handtruck just barely fit on the landing with the boiler . We had to shimmy the boiler off the landing . The old JOT we just split and hand carried out of there . When I was explaining the new unit to the homeowner I got the distinct impression that she did not flush the low water cutoff , ever . Goes to show how bad a steam boiler and components can be neglected and still run for years . I'm trying to get the company to switch to probe LWCOs for steam .

Thats a Honeywell pressuretrol , I forget the model number . They seem to be controlling the pressure much better than the old PA404s . This was a 3 section Burnham and we had a preset Beckett . Sweet combination . Thanks alot Clammy .

Unknown

Stairs are cake ?

I guess you could believe that if you had more than one day to install the boiler . Since we don't carry planks , chains and maybe a tire to break the fall of the boiler , our choices were limited - carry the block by hand , split the block and reassemble , or handtruck it and hope for the best . You sound like one of our salespeople - Sure , they can get it down there , no problem ! Stairs end in a wall ? They do that every day ! Mark it on the paperwork ? Naa , they're prepared for every challenge !

Why don't we use cast fittings ? What is the benefit of cast over malleable ?

Matt Undy

There is the giant hole that looks like a plumber chopped it for the original of that waste line there but look at the joists. They are lapped together a little to the right of that 2x6 "beam". Either there is a beam or wall that is missing(which the foundation shows no signs of) or the original framer was catastropicaly incompetent. That needs to be fixed with a propper beam immediately. If those nails holding the lapped joists together pull out the floor will collapse. The joist that is chopped away is a relatively minor problem.

Matt Undy

Sounds like the sales guy (and owner) that quoted my furnace. I pointed out that the whole thing was set in concrete and it was a rather large, heavy steel furnace rated for gravity but installed as forced with a seperate nearly as cumbersom blower cabinet. They didn't bother to tell the installer that the old unit was going to be 3 times the effort to tear out. I had to loan him a sledghammer to break up the slab the 2 cabinets and the blower were poured in to. (of course the up side for me is that they didn't charge me 3 times the normal demo costs).

I think the maliable vs cast issue is that the cast can be broken up off the pipe more easily if the joint has rusted together such that it won't unscrew.

Matt