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CIT Project Home....................hb

heatboy
heatboy Member Posts: 1,468
As some of you may remember, I am involved with my local vo-tech school. The kids build 90% of the home and then the school sells it and starts the process all over. This home sits in a 300+ home development that is all electrically heated......except for the project home. Our project consists of an oil fired Crown Freeport and Mega Stor. There is a combination of radiant and fin tube baseboard with a total of 9 heating zones. The garage and basement are slab radiant while the kitchen, foyer and baths are Wirsbo Joist Trak. The system is controlled by a Wirsbo 311 control. The balance of the home is Argo Panel Trim. The kids piped this whole mechanical room and I started things on Friday. They did a wonderful job and should be proud of their hard work.

I would like to give a huge thank you to Cindy, Jan and Joe Pauley from Wirsbo for all of their help on this project. The fact that they wanted to be involved with this shows me they are concerned about our future tradesmen.

I'm already scheming the next project house!

hb

PS Don't pay any attention to that other tubing to the left. I had NOTHING to do with that!

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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    HiYA Jeff

    Nice to have some help doing the back breaking part. Also nice of you to be involved with the youngsters.

    Any problem with your piping being under the soil and waste piping ? Theres a cleanout plug over your controls.

    Hey what happened to the ProPress ? Do's Jason not let you use it ? I know I have to wrestle it away from Chris :).

    It will take awhile for all of us to stop thinking of seafood and beer but we'll come around.

    Scott

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  • Dan Foley
    Dan Foley Member Posts: 1,265
    Nice

    Way to go, Jeffrey. Nice to see you get involved with your community and the future of our trade. I would be curious to see how the utility bills compare with the neighbors, not to mention the comfort. -DF

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  • Nron_9
    Nron_9 Member Posts: 237
    Kids?

    Are you sure kids did this , it looks better than most pro jobs i have seen , they all deserve a round of appaluse , and sign them up in the apprentice program quick .
  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    Thanks Jeff!!

    Thanks for bringing new blood to our trade. One of the scariest things I saw while at ISH was the color of the majority of the plumbers attending the PHCC and other associated conventions. 90% of the attendees were very GRAY haired. THis tells me that they are nearing retirement in DROVES, and theres not enough people to replace them.

    Rich Trethewey said that our trade shortage will be his next point of focus. Thank you Richard...

    If you think the oil shortage is going to be bad, wait until the labor shortage hits. Oil won't do you any good if there isn't someone to install and maintain the systems.

    Keep up the good work Jeff and company. You were sadly missed at ISH.

    ME

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  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,908
    Excellent!


    Now how much trouble did those kids get in when they went home with rusty pants?!?!??!?

    They are learning from one of the best!

    Best wishes.

    Mark H

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  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Very nice Jeff

    Send some of them down this way when they graduate. As for ME's comments on the labor shortage, I think it's already here in the DC area. 90% of graduating seniors from the high schools are going to college. Sure some come back and work with their hands(I know I did) but many are looking for a job where they can sit and play solitare. Long days being lazy and bored is what I think. Mark's comment on the grey hairs reminded me of a concert I went to this Summer. I went to see John Prine and while standing in line and getting a beer, I actually said to my wife, "what are all of these old people doing here?" and immediately relyzing I was with my peers. ACK!

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  • Mark Eatherton1
    Mark Eatherton1 Member Posts: 2,542
    Same experience at Joe Cocker concert...

    How come all those guys have grey pony tails..ERK!!

    I'm not greying yet, and I don't have a pony tail, but I am their age...

    ME

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  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    Set a good example...*~/ hats off to you :)

    for the most part the computer has replaced the wrench...as choise of tool.however maybe some young guys will see good work and go 'Wow! Hey, I bet I could do That':) could happen ...
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,980
    Hey Jeff,

    Great job. Like everyone else said, thanks for showing us some "new blood" hard at work.

    I hate to, but have to agree with Mark. The help pool is quickly drying up. We may not have steak every night, but we aren't starving either. To give them a glimps of the future (radiant heating) was a big chunck O'change for the school project to swallow, but the education the guys are getting is priceless. It's gonna take people like us here on the Wall to show off and spread the word. You lit the fuse, lets see where it goes to.

    By the way, to all employers. Lots of local trade schools have what is called a work/study program. These programs let the students work for their shop hours(IF they deserve it) that they need for graduating. As a Vocational School graduate, I will attest to the effectiveness of the program.

    I was in the "diesel engine shop" in high school. After 1-1/2 years, the teacher was good enough to recommend me for this type of education.I worked at a trucking company starting out as the "fuel king". In a few months, I was bumped up to "trainee", working on the trucks and by the end of the first year was doing full time work on the trucks and trailers.

    I attended clases in the morning session and went to work for second session of the day.The program also gave me a bit more drive than students who sat in the shop all afternoon, taught me a work ethic that is unbeatable (by today's standard) and let me learn while I earned. A win/win all around.

    Check out the local trade schools! They may have more to offer than you think! (O.K. .....I'll confess, the reason I got into the heating field from the diesel engine field was my chosen sub-section. I went into the marine end of the busness, joined the Coast Guard, and when I got out, the boating/fishing industry was in the toilet. The fuel smelled the same, so I went to work for an oil company. The learning I took from the trade school and the Coast Guard went a LONG way to getting me here.) Chris
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