Codes for boiler in garage

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applicaple codes about requirements for boilers , water heaters and oil tanks moved into a garage . Seems like every inspector interprets their own set of rules differently .

Case in point - we were under the impression that a boiler doesn't need to be raised off the floor , or stanchions put in front , if the boiler is in a separate room in the garage . Many an inspector said this was OK . One inspector wants the stanchions in front of the wall of the boiler room , and the boiler up 18 - 20 inches . Oh , this same inspector wants us to install a draft regulator on every Weil Gold boiler off the floor in a Levitt kitchen . Never mind theres no room to install it into the only piece of fluepipe used - a 6 inch ell . It's gotta be put in .

Anyone know where I can get info on the proper codes to follow for garage installs ? We work in Nassau and Suffolk County , New York . Thanks in advance .

ernie_3

You'd be.....

better off looking in the building codes than the oil fired appliances code. Had a situation where the inspector started quoting the buildin code on a system I installed in a garage.

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Thanks Ernie

I'm naive about this kind of stuff . Would there be a resource online about the building code for my area , or maybe a book I could buy ? I am pretty much clueless on where to start . I have NFPA 31 , but that doesn't go into specifics about stanchions .

techheat_2

Ron

Good question,I think every village and town makes it up as they go along. Some want a tempering valve on every coil,some on every means of producing domestic HW and some a manual mixer is OK. EVERY new home built in Brookhaven town has an oil tank piped in copper,which is forbidden by NFPA.

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J.C.A._3

Ron,

NFPA31 deals with most of the codes, but you must remember that "all codes can be superceeded by local authority".(garage boiler and tank installs are REALLY subject to local authorities)

Thorn in my side too. Every inspector seems to have their own agenda and will fight to the courtroom to accommadate their self esteem,but most national codes will suffice.

Ask the Firedragon.(firedragonent@comcast.net) His expertise is in code and code enforcement.(He does some teaching in N.Y.State I see) Like I said earlier, some local codes can and will exceed national codes. Apparently, the inspectors can get whatever they want, THEY sign the permits. I've been looking forward to a COMPLETE and FULL code in Ma. for a long time. To have to bow to the whims of all the different towns I work in has become a game.Most I understand and agree with, but there are some that are still looking for antiquated and out of date confirmations. The FACT, that the towns and cities don't have the money to send these fine inspectors to any kind of training is becoming too obvious.The industry and safety standards are SO high, but the local inspector may have not seen any updates since the "fabulous 70's".

There REALLY HAS to be a NATIONAL code, that we are all held to. The mind and guessing games are becoming a bore. I have no problem following NFPA31. Ma codes have been above and beyond that for MANY years. I will always do things to what I learned when I started, and that is far and above NFPA31. It seems safe to me, but what do I know? Chris

Firedragon_4

I would love to help you out

Ron, which way did you come in??? :-)

You're in NYS, good luck, no licenses, no standards, no kidding!!!

With the exception of NYC that state is a glaring example of what happens when nobody wants to 'make waves'. If it continues that state will go from the biggest in oilheat to a has been.

I've pulled out of teaching the code down there for now, just too big of a mess and nobody knows who's on first. I just do oilburners and such, try this though and good luck, you'll need it and forgive the sarcasm!

http://www.contractor-books.com/NY_Codes.htm?source=google

kevin coppinger_4

can you just go...

by the local inspectors office and ask if he wants anything special w/o getting into a ton of details...maybe there is a handout that they use...maybe, maybe not. kpc

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toearly_2

> Anyone

> know where I can get info on the proper codes to

> follow for garage installs ? We work in Nassau

> and Suffolk County , New York . Thanks in advance

> .



NY now has it's very own code.. Weak, but still a code there is a six volume set. I think proffesioanl equipment has the set. If not their sister company does. it will run you about 5 bills. The code is now the bible of building in NY. This does not include NYC. The beauty of the code is you now have recourse if there is a problem.

Hope this helps

David

tim smith

boilers in garages

In Seattle, the City boiler inspectors have always said if it is in a confined room accesible from garage, they do have to be 18" off ground. But if you go directly into basement from garage and boiler is just inside in basement, no on 18", go figure. Now steel stanchions when boiler is in a closet, don't get that totally. But that is not that hard to do. If boiler already in and not 18" off, a little harder I suspet. Try looking in the UMC code book, I think most of this is addressed.

Wayne_10

Boilers should be 18" off the floor for a good reason. Gas vapors from cars,lownmowers,gascan's can and will cause an explosion. Seen it with my own eyes in Maine.