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Upgrade from an old cast iron boiler

ripping out the old 4 section beast that ran crappy for decades . Behind it is a 25 year old Ford rear flue water heater . It's funny how the cheapest looking heaters last the longest around here . We took that out too .

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  • Burnham V83 and Bock 32

    We capped a 3rd future zone for the homeowner's plumber . This was a rare 2 day job . The ripout yesterday really zapped us . Another home with a basement and no easy way to get out of it . We also installed a buried fiberglass oil tank . The homeowner moved there in April and didn't want to take any chances this coming winter .
  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,909
    Nice Job!!


    I see you used flo-checks again. Did you get caught on the last job where you used the IFC's????

    Always good to see your work Ron.

    Mark H

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  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    very nice....

    but why the Bock tank???? Why not an indirect??? seems like a waste...I know you just install what the salesman sells but that set up ???? kpc

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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Kevin/Ron,

    Let me take a stab and guess that the salesman "couldn't talk" the owner into the indirect. If a boiler runs all year, it's wasting money, but a seperate appliance and service add-on isn't.( I've run into this too many times to count and TRY to explain. It's like pulling teeth to some???)

    I think a nice indirect would have been a bonus to all parties, but it ain't my home. Chris
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Kevin/Ron,

    Let me take a stab and guess that the salesman "couldn't talk" the owner into the indirect. If a boiler runs all year, it's wasting money, but a seperate appliance and service add-on isn't.( I've run into this too many times to count and TRY to explain. It's like pulling teeth to some???) Nice job Ron !

    I think a nice indirect would have been a bonus to all parties, but it ain't my home. Chris
  • The IFC situation

    Seems that the job we used the 4 IFCs on was the whole inventory at out supply house . We have a few on backorder , not sure when they'll come in . Definitely a timesaver . Thanks alot Mark for your post .
  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,092
    #1

    looks great ron once again .What's up with the flow chks can't talk therm into ifc you save a nipple the joints and a flow chk it's a no brainer oh well love that old side arm domectic heater excellent .That old unit must have been a service mans dream with the burner on the back and flue above they always put in in a good mood at 10:30 at nite the new system will be a dream to service and as always great job peace clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Chris and Kevin , I think

    the salesmen have been asked to push for separate oil fired heaters , or even aquaboosters . If you've seen the number of premature indirect failures here , you wouldn't believe it . I know I still don't . Often we change at least one a week . My neighbor , who is on his 4th Phase 3 in 5 years , showed me a sample of his water from his last indirect - looked like rusty diarhea . He's sending it in to be tested .

    I set the 8124 to 120 on the low side , so it shouldn't burn much oil in the off season . I don't like the idea of cold starting a Burnham , but I really have no basis for that opinion . You ever get your hands on a cold start Burham ? Any service issues ? Thank you very much Chris and Kevin .
  • Getting the supply house

    to stock the IFC might be the next big hurdle to overcome . Yeah I forgot about that sidearm coil . One of the guys cut it out and it didn't look half bad , must have been a small leak in the copper somewhere . This was a new account to us and whoever had it before did not vacuum the boiler or clean the chimney base in years . Taking the fluepipe out of the boiler itself was not fun , so I can sort of understand , just a little . Thanks alot Clammy .
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Ron,

    I don't have your email address any longer. It got lost in the last CRASH. Email me at [email protected] so I can plug it back in.

    We'll chat. Chris
  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    ok...that being said...

    generally speaking don't oil fired water heaters have a shorter life since flame is being applied directly to the tank? If it the Bock brand that lasts longer due to the fact they put in 2 anode rods...they make an indirect. Anyhow, keep up the good work Ron....kpc

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  • Ray Landry
    Ray Landry Member Posts: 203


    Thats a night and day difference from the old boiler. Nice work. Just curious how come you didn't install a vaccum breaker on the cold water supply the boch? Is that not code i n your state?
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    nice job...again

    Love to see the work you guy's do...:) Now if you could just go a little faster..:o Just picking!! Sound's like a real water issue in your area. I take it coil's don't last long either....
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