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bad buderus

Mellow_2
Mellow_2 Member Posts: 204
in THE MAIN WALL
Please don't do this!!! I didn't do this job but like to show this one to people. This is copper at its best.

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  • marc
    marc Member Posts: 203
    prime example

    of using zone valves vs. pumps, holy crap, that must have taken forever to solder. 15 or more zones, crazy. marc
  • Constantin
    Constantin Member Posts: 3,796
    Isn't this a recycled picture?

    Haven't I seen these before? For some reason I recall a very similar picture of a forest of copper being fed by a Buderus.

    Regardless, I cannot think of a good reason for this sort of manifold madness.
  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
    I wonder

    How many GPM all those 007's are wheeling through that boiler when they are all on?

    Think they need any additional heat in the boiler room with all that bare copper?

    What would the amp draw be with all those circs up and running? 10-12 amps? Might as well run a 1 HP motor.
  • Joe@buderus
    Joe@buderus Member Posts: 165


    BAD BUDERUS?????
  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    Maybe a poor choice of a phrase...

    it just shows to go you that no mater what boiler you put in that the installer is the real key to a good SYSTEM.kpc

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  • Mellow_2
    Mellow_2 Member Posts: 204
    bad santa?????

    Got milk ????? it is a joke, I like buderus ok,but this cust. blamed all his problems on the boiler to save money on the repair bill. We got it running for him but not able to fix the system. Yes I did show this before but I just can't help myself.........stay happy.......
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    Not just the power consumption

    but the amount of actual work being performed by 15 pumps consuming 78W each. 1170 watts to move 100,000 BTU, sounds like a forced air system with a strip heat running to boot :)

    Be interesting to plot where all those pumps are running on their curves.

    hot rod

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  • S Ebels
    S Ebels Member Posts: 2,322
    Point well taken Joe

    The picture should be titled "Bad Buderus Installation" or "How NOT to install a Buderus"!!

    It's hard to find anything right about that job.

    I would like to hear from you what effect an install like that is going to have on the 2107 and cycling the burner. Give us your take on that mess.
  • Joe@buderus
    Joe@buderus Member Posts: 165


    Because the 2107 has condensate protection, the heat circuit (terminal 61 and 63 in the 2107) would be de-energized quite a lot during the first part of the burner cycle (hopefully the circulator circuit is tied into the R2107 terminals 61 and 63). I would also suggest turning the "Pump Logic"(condensate protection) setting from the factory setting of 104 to approximately 115/120. The boiler is the G215 series so thermal shock should not be an issue.

    I think the share price of copper went up when this job was done!!
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