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Why wait to change this boiler ?

was asked repeatedly to consider new equipment . And repeatedly they said no . The last serviceman there had to condemn the boiler , for good reason . Notice the jacket top had to be cut to clean the boiler . And the expansion tank was hanging sideways with no support off of 1/2 inch copper . And finally , the company that built their new kitchen ran power to the outlets from the boiler circuit . It's that nice looking romex laying on the fluepipe .

The other pics are of the corroded coil , if you can believe theres a coil behind that mess , and where the chamber deteriorated by the burner .


  • Peerless WBV3

    fits in there like a glove . It's hard to take a good pic because my **** was against the hallway wall .

    The built in air eliminator frees up some room for our circs and expansion tank . We also mounted the junction box for the electric on the wall . The old one was just hanging in the breeze . Both zones were low voltage , a rarity in Levittown , so we mounted a 2 zone Taco relay above the fluepipe .
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,719
    Nice Job, as usual

    I wonder if the owner will take care of the Peerless the way they took care of the Burnham?

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  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Captain Shoehorn,

    Strikes again! Good thing your not claustriphobic Ron. Nice job, as usual. Chris
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    I don't know how you do it

    Incredible Ron. You seem to find every closet in the state!! Excellent job per the norm...Hope they take better care of that one....:)
  • David_5
    David_5 Member Posts: 250

    Nice install. I like to run flexible oil lines to the burner so they don't have to be disconnected to take advantage of that hinged burner door when servicing.

  • Robert O'Connor_5
    Robert O'Connor_5 Member Posts: 25
    What happened to the kitchen electric?

    I Didn't see the wire after your install. Do they still have lights up there?..Robert O'Connor/NJ
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    Jeeze Louise that looks good:)

    dynomite could correct some of it:) Your work ...well:) thats looking alot more like it! :)the other burner was back drafting and clogged...some outside air to the Region would be a signifigant improvement also. a 3"piece of abs would help the burner Breathe.. just a suggestion ..run the abs from the outside into the area and wow wee:)the riello parts man will be like the maytag repair man :) .
  • steve_29
    steve_29 Member Posts: 185

    Ron... got a couple of questions for you.

    I noticed you have a PRV on the domestic side of your coil, is that a requirement or is that something you do on your own?

    It also appears that there isn't a backflo preventer on the feed, is that something that isn't required in the community this install was done?

  • clammy
    clammy Member Posts: 3,092
    ron strikes again

    Hey ron top notch as usauall from the looks of the old boiler it looks like something i,m stuck servicing great job as allways peace clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Are they expensive ?

    There were 2 flare unions to the left of the boiler . Installing the flex lines would be real easy . Thanks David .
  • It's hard to see

    but there is a bakflow downstream of the PRV , feeding into the boiler return . You can just make out the backflow along the right wall . The backflow and LWCO are relatively new requirements in Levittown and the surrounding areas we work . I wonder how long till we have Firomatics on every job . Thanks Steve .
  • Rerouted

    The romex is zip tied to a bx wire that comes out of the junction box . We did wire it back into the burner circuit . I only go so far fixing other peoples screwups . The funny thing is the homeowner had the money to redo the kitchen , put new floors down , had a week old Honda Element , but complained about paying for a new boiler . Well , I guess it did break down at an inopportune time .
  • Thanks guys

    I think the boiler stays out of sight and out of mind , Steamhead . At least the chamber won't be able to burn through like that dry base .

    Chris , if I was claustrophobic , I might be out of a job . Although , standing erect while working has it's advantages . We got a Buderus piggyback electric to oil conversion going Monday . I hear it's a wide opn basement .

    Us install guys actually have it easier than the servicemen . You gotta see where the original B and G circ was positioned on the Tall Yorks . Changing them out is a **** and a half .
  • Hard to run

    frsh air into that little room , it's in the middle of the house with the stairs above it . The plumbing wall runs to the left , and we could run a 3 inch pipe down it if the kitchen or the bathroom were gutted . They do have an opening behind the boiler to the right - some paneling with a grill cut into it . Thanks alot Weezbo .
  • We have a few more to go

    before all of Levittown is upgraded . This was relatively easy because the doorway was already cut for us ( we cut the wall most of the time ) , and the Tall York was already out ( a big pain in the **** to remove ) . Thanks 1chmb .
  • The old boiler

    was not the best choice for under the stairs - very wide and long , and the coil was pined against the right side wall . We have also seen a few Axman Andersons and Blueray BY75s in there . We like to make em service friendly for guys like you clammy . Thanks alot .
  • jerryb
    jerryb Member Posts: 113

    How i do't miss working under those stairs.And Ron your so right bout the BBBBiGGG B+G on the TaLLLLL York.Need a right arm like HERCULES!!! NICE JOB!!
  • Wayco Wayne_2
    Wayco Wayne_2 Member Posts: 2,479
    Very nice work Ron

    I love the pictures you post as before and after. I can use them when showing my hydronics class how to do it right. WW

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