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New Oil Burner Primary Controls

Bob Tonner
Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
Hey Guys,

Check them out at www.infinitylab.com

5100i Oil Burner Primary:

-Low Cost

-100% Solid State (No Relays)

-Recycles on Loss of Flame

-Servicemans Lockout

-Diagnostic LEDs

+ more...


5200i Oil Burner Primary with Interrupted Ignition:

Same as 5100i + Interrupted Ignition

+ more...


5300i Oil Burner Primary with Pre/Post-purge & Interrupted Ignition:

Same as above +

-Programmable Post-purge (0, 15, 30, 60, 120 or 240 seconds)

-15 second pre-purge

-45 second Bleed feature

+ more...

Classic Look with sophisticated guts.

Coming to a wholesaler near you this fall.

_________________

Bob Tonner

President

InfinityLab Inc

ph.(905) 619-0837

[email protected]

www.infinitylab.com

Comments

  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64


  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    excellent

    Just forwarded that to the salesman in the company...what's next?
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    lchmb,

    You have to SELL salesmen on this?

    This is but , ANOTHER CHOICE in your array of contorls.

    Having met and spent time with Bob, (he followed me around for a day a few years back, and got some EDUCATION, that even HE, would be likely tell you about. I will say, that Buster, the beer fetching dog, was most likely the highlight of the day,(the foul-mouthed mechanic was another high point, but I digress)

    He also spent time with a few other Oil techs. and was willingly subject to the boring and subtle ways , of our "ordinary day". He watched us do our usual thing, and was facinated by it, as boring as it would be to a "normal person",and about 10 times more enthusiastic as any "boot/trainee"I've had for the last 3 years!

    Bob asked the right questions
    (non-stop!), and watched a varied field of techs, do their jobs. He also asked for our input on what would make a control better, or more easily understood. I'm sure he got a pile of different responses, but in viewing the controls offered by Infinity Labs, I'm thinking that he was listening. He's a stand-up guy in MY book.

    For all you guys out there that do work on oil, the controls are available on Wayne equipment, and equal or surpass the same criteria as anybody else's controls.(CMA/UL and all the other various agencies that HE has to comply with)

    This is a finely tuned passion for Bob. He's pursued it from the technical direction, and listened to the "folks in the field" to do it right. Give them a try. (not cheerleading). Chris
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    LOL

    No don't have to "sell" the salesman on this...:) just show him where to buy them.In all honesty though, I can only suggest not order...I agree completely with you that this control seem's to meet or exceed all need's from a tech's point of view and hope to add them to inventory...And keep up the good work Bob, glad to see it come out and will continue to watch in the future..
  • Leo
    Leo Member Posts: 770
    Bob's Passion

    Bob has a passion for what he does that very few can match. His passion matches that of an evangelist yet does not come across as a huckster. You want to use his product because his passion is infectious.

    Leo
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Thanks Fellas

    Ya, I guess you can call it passion. I lay awake at night thinking about this stuff, force my wife and kids to listen to my ideas around the dinner table, and attempt to build a company around it.

    One correction Chris; these primaries will NOT be sold through Wayne Combustion. They currently have a line of oil primaries from another manufacturer. These will be marketed directly by InfinityLab Inc.

    Our goal is to provide significant improvements in safety, reliability and performance, while leveraging our unique technology and patents to reduce cost to the industry. I believe that for oil to compete against gas, intelligence must be added. Our R&D dollars go to oil. Any gas control that we develop is riding on that.

    Finally, we've got a whole string of products coming down the pipe. What we are releasing now pays the bills. The really fun stuff will be a bit later.

    Bob Tonner

    President

    InfinityLab Inc
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Buster the Dog....

    Chris, that entire day is still imprinted in my memory. I had a blast and learned so much from you, Bill Nye the Burner Guy, the late great John Gates, Leo (though I only had dinner with him and John), Joe (Oil Wizard) Buchas, and of course the elusive masked man...Captain Riello!

    Since then I have met with many knowledgable key players in this industry, made friends and have learned volumes from the likes of George (Firedragon) Lanthier, Alan (my Brother) Mercurio, Clarence Burley (in our remote R&D lab in NY) and many others.

    But, Buster the beer-fetchin dog; that should be on Ripley's Believe it or Not!

    Bob
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    What's next?

    Do you promise not to tell Honeywell?

    BT
  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    not a word

    :) I'll keep it between us!! As Firedragon would say FACT!! LOL
  • Is it ?

    Could it be ? An aquastat / LWCO , all in one ? Hopefully someday . I think we would be good for 300 to 400 a year if it is ever made .

    Bob , will you be making a primary control with these features for the Riello burner ?
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Now I'll have to have you \"taken care of\"

    Ron, you won't be disappointed. Patents must be processed first.

    BT
  • David_5
    David_5 Member Posts: 250
    Diagnostic indicator

    What will it be capable of telling me?

    David
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Diagnostic Summary...

    FAILURE TO IGNITE:(3-flashes)
    (this indicates that the burner failed to ignite normally)

    MOTOR OUTPUT FAULT:(4 flashes)
    (the orange wire may have been mis-wired, or the the control has had detected a potential problem with the driver circuitry or the supervision of the driver circuitry)


    BOOT/SUPERVISORY FAULT:(5 flashes)
    (during power up or after each completed burn cycle the control executes a complete check of its internal operation, from solder joints on the micro-processor to memory locations to ensure absolute integrity. If anything is found to be amiss, this will be reported


    LOST FLAME AFTER IGNITION:(6 flashes)
    (if the burner establishes flame, but consistently drops the flame, say when the igntier drops out, then this will be reported. Obviously there is a differernce between a LOST FLAME and a FAILURE TO IGNITE)


    FLAME DURING PURGE:(7 flashes)
    (if the valve has failed in the open state it will cause the fuel to flow during pre-purge. Since the igniter is on during this stage, it will result in ignition. and the control will shut down and report the condition)


    VALVE_OUTPUT FAILURE: (8 flashes)
    (the violet wire may have been mis-wired, or the the control has detected a potential problem with the driver circuitry or the supervision of the driver circuitry)

    Some of these do not apply to all models, but you get the idea.

    Only the FAILURE TO IGNITE and LOST FLAME AFTER IGNITION conditions will allow for Homeowner Resets. The other conditions will go directly to Serviceman's Lockout requiring intervention.

    Best regards,

    Bob Tonner, President, InfinityLab Inc.
  • J.C.A._3
    J.C.A._3 Member Posts: 2,981
    Hey Bob,

    Think you might be able to fit this "probe" into a minimum 1" pipe fitting?(like a sweat or threaded tee)

    If you can, my guess would be that it would become either "standard equipment"with many packaged boilers, or the best option available EVER.

    I've been going to the well to find an all around LWCO for most installs, and the options are extremely limited by probe depth, so far. To use a M&M probe type, the minimum sized tee would be 1-1/2". Lots of manufacturers use big outlet tappings , some larger, but not all. Just a thought. Keep up the good work! Chris
  • David_5
    David_5 Member Posts: 250
    Great work

    I'll be looking for them when you get them out.

    David
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Regarding the Riello Primary...

    Been there, done that. The finshed product (approved by Riello Italy, successful field trials, UL/CSA approved etc) sits on my credenza, beside my desk. I am just not sure what to do with it.

    BT
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Probes....

    Chris, we are doing much better than that. I am coming down your way in September. Maybe we can get together for dinner and I'll show it to you. The public unveiling has to wait a bit longer though.

    Bob Tonner, President, InfinityLab Inc.
  • Is it an all in one

    control , everything built into the primary , or an add on control , like the K7R ?
  • If you need volunteers

    to field test this control , I'd be happy to try one . I don't have a LWCO on the boiler as it is . This is something our company would be very interested in .
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    All in one.

  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    Field tests.

    I'll put you on the list Ron.

    BT
  • Robert O'Connor_6
    Robert O'Connor_6 Member Posts: 299


  • lchmb
    lchmb Member Posts: 2,997
    How about?

    A control system to run both circ's and zone valve's together? You promised..LOL..also pushed this thread back to the top..Some thing's need to stick around!!
  • Bob Tonner
    Bob Tonner Member Posts: 64
    right you are....

    Did I show you that one? Or, is there a security leak here?!

    Unfortunately, the projects that are closest to completion and potentially most profitable get priority. The "LEGO" zone control project is still active.

    Bob Tonner, President, InfinityLab Inc.
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