Source for CI Radiators

Steamhead

not yet, that is.

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wflather

Source for CI Radiators

I am hoping to find a source in the NE for cast iron radiators. I was hoping I could save some money by finding used units. Can anyone recommend anyone who has some available? I am located in central PA and am willing to travel to pick these up. The need is for a new 28x23 ft two storey addition.

Thanks,
Bill F

Steamhead

Bill, we're located in Baltimore

and have a bunch of radiators. Some questions:

Have you done a heat-loss calculation on the addition?

Will this be for a steam or hot-water system?

If steam, is it one-pipe or two-pipe? If the latter, what variation of two-pipe? A photo of one of your existing radiator hookups will help.

If hot-water, what is the existing system's design maximum water temperature?

Do you prefer one particular radiator design over another?

The answers will help us locate what you need.

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Bill Nye

Bill

I am in south eastern Connecticut. I have about 30 radiators. All are in excellent shape, nothing ornate though. Very reasonable . E-mail me if interested

wflather

Baltimore's good...

Good question on the heat-loss calcs. Answer is no, I have not. I will have to refer that to a heating specialist or research how to do that. However, this is new construction, my insulation preference is dense-pack cellulose in walls and blown in in the attic. All windows will be new double pane, either Marvin or K&K. One wall will be against the existing house. Downstairs will have two patio-type doors, windows (4 downstairs, 5 upstairs) 2.5w x 4.5h.

I have no special preference to type, the house currently has a mix of 1940's type standing radiators, some sort of funky-but-nice radiators (19.5"h and various widths) that were recessed into the walls, one section of old 7.5"h Burnham Base-Ray baseboard, one Toester kickspace hydronic heater and some new radiant floor in a bathroom.

Current furnace is oil and wood fired hot water. I'm not sure what the max temp is, we shoot for 140 and the temp guage on the furnace tops out at 160. The wood boiler (pre-heater) goes higher than that, at least to 180.

I'm not too concerned about make, and if the first floor and second floor are different, that wouldn't bother me at all, just so long as they are complete. The Burnham units I bought several years ago (and have only used one) were lacking the sheet-metal covers for the ends of the radiators. I then found out that this size is no longer made and I couldn't replace the covers. Bummer.

What other information would be useful?

Bill.

wflather

Don't need ornate

Bill,
Don't need ornate, just complete. Can you tell me what make/sizes and if they are complete? As Steamhead just pointed out, I need to have some way to assess btu output to match up with these rooms.

(Bill Nye, the Science Guy?)

Thanks, Bill

Bill Nye

Not!

Not the science guy, but maybe a distant relative.

It sounds like you are looking for baseboard? I have about 20 ft of 7". The kind you can no longer get end caps for. I thought you were looking for free standing radiators. I guess I should have read your post a little more carefully. You can still buy Burnham baseboard, semi-recessed convectors , and free standing radiators new. Expensive, but nice. How do you put a price on comfort?

Mike Kraft_2

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Man.........Bill,

Bill Nye for years always signed off Bill Nye(not the science guy):) And this is the first in years I've seen it asked!Sure am glad I didnt miss it!

BTW,what piping stradegy do you have in mind for these rads?Are you retro-fitting?Or are you doing a new install?need a plan;)

Heres a link for some www.oldgoodthings.com Cut and paste.Follow the link to Scarnton PA.They dont have any rads listed but they may if you contact them.I'm sure Bill Nye will fix you up real good!!

cheese

PS I just re-read your post.It would be good to know how your piping is distributed.

Steamhead

OK, we can assume a design water temp of 180 degrees

Now we need to know how much heat each room needs. Click on "Free Heat Loss Calcs" at the upper left of the page and it will let you order the Slant/Fin calc program. They're about to release version 2 though, so it may take a bit to get your copy.

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wflather

Piping strategy?

Pardon me for being dense. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, also, this is still in the design stages. Architects pointed out that radiant under wood floor has potential problems. I like radiators and think the comfort, look and lack of intrusion of CI over fin tube is worth the trouble. I am hoping that if I can locate a source for used units, I can defray the cost a bit. I want to see if I can find enough and then plan around what I can find.

I am expecting these two floors to be on their own zones. I would consider PEX but may defer to the heating sub on that.

I can't seem to make any sense out of the oldgoodthings website. There is no obvious link to Heating supplies sources or Scranton, just links to more links.

Thanks,
Bill F.

wflather

No download?!

I wish I could download the software, sure would be easier...