And the winner is... (ME)

Mark Eatherton1

The contest consisted to two man teams. One down-n-back, 12" OC, with ties every 12 inches using the old whirly gig tube tyer on a 4 X 8 6X6 WWM sheet grid.

Unofficially, HR and JJ McGough set the record at 1 minute and 11 seconds, but they had to be disqualified because they didn't use the whirly gig. They used their hands!

They just wanted to show me the RIGHT way to tie tube...And rightfully so. Too many people tie to the too tight with the tying "aids" and it distorts the tube.

So, officially, Jeff Link with Link services from Edenburg PA came in second with a time of 2:21:05, and First place and the Watts Radiant ClipTye tool went to the team of Tom Simenson and son with a winning time of 1:27:48.

After they set the unoffical world recored for hand tying, we asked them to demo the Clip Tye so we could compare efficiencies, and they did the same pattern in 49 seconds! And they didn't even have to bend over!! Thats better than a 50% reduction in tye time with ZERO previous experience.

Thanks again to Greg Gibbs with Shamrock Sales, and John Sweeney of Watts Radiant and the good folks at Watts Radiant for donating the Clip Tye tool for the contest.

It's worth the money folks...

ME

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Murph'_5

Was Hot Rod ..........

Riding the uni-cycle? perhaps this made an unfair advantage for the competition, sounds like youse guys had a great time, how about some pics !!



Murph'

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Tim Doran_2

Foam Stapler

How about times with a foam stapler? I would guess that it is very fast. This is my slab application of choice.

Ted

Mark Eatherton1

I guess...

you've never been standing there while they were pumping concrete onto the foam with which you stapled the tube using the foam staples, and to your horror of horrors watched as the hydraulic force of the cement BLEW the staples and the tubing out of the foam only to allow the tube to go wherever...

It USED to be my favorite means of fastening too:-(

It's also the reason I don't use the augers anymore either...

What looks good on paper sometimes fails when exposed to real world conditions. You have to be there and see it to believe it. Done been there and done that, don't care to see it again:-)

ME

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kevin coppinger_4

Mark...

what lenghth stapes were you using? If you use the 1 1/2" staples as opposed to the 2" ones I suppose that would make a difference...I am sure you have done a few more jobs than I...was this a 1 time occurance or a all the time problem? kpc

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Mark Eatherton1

Not sure Kevin...

The first time I saw it was the last time I used them. I've talked to numerous cement finishers to see if its a regular occurence and the comment was "Oh yeah..." so I went back to the old stand by, wire ties. He said it has to do with the heighth of the discharge nozzle or chute. He said chute work had a tendency to blow out more than (side force) hose work unless the hose was held above the 3 foot working level.

As for length, I don't remember.

ME

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kevin_5

WOW

I could sure see that happening, but thankfully it's never happened to me. I'll bet it can be controlled by the rate of flow the operator of the pump uses and how high he holds the hose? The ones I've been around, they had the pump hose only a couple feet or so above the ground. Maybe they get paid by the yard pumped and are in a hurry to get on to the next job. Whatever the reason, what a NIGHTMARE. What did you do in that case- hurriedly try to pull it back and tie it down or what? Kevin

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Mark Eatherton1

Couldn't do anything but watch...

If you get in these concrete guys way, they'll bury you, just like they did with Jimmy Hoffa:-)

I went back to the house in the winter and there was a noticeable difference in floor temp (cooler) where the tubing had been blown out. Fortunately, it was near an attachement of the home to a heated garage, so few people walked thru this area with bare feet. The owner never complained, so I filed it in my mental filing cabinet and forgot it. Hopefully it won't come back to bite me you know where...

Kind of amazing what goes on when you're not looking...

ME


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