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W-M HE II Opinions

ishmael2k
ishmael2k Member Posts: 39
used WM HE II boiler to temporarily replace a leaking 42 yr old American Standard.

Just wondering if there are any overwhelming reasons not to buy this certain unit?

Did a search here and came up pretty much empty handed, also came across very little online about this unit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Rob

PS, Yes I KNOW it would be better to get a pro to install a new unit and that is what I am planning on doing in a couple of years. Right now i need something to get me through the next couple of winters fairly cheaply.

Thanks again

Comments

  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    :))

    i have one in my yard unfortunately i live like a few miles away:) people like me in your area may have one they have reconditioned...it takes Time to do it so it probably wont be cheap...some places require a sticker on them that says so and so re furbished them with a date on it some places not so picky,because they "Fit"sometimes they are a cheaper way to fly on a freez up time wise the boilers back on line in a flash.So it may be difficult to get one away from a guy.dont look for an energy star rating on the puppy:)
  • Ken_8
    Ken_8 Member Posts: 1,640
    I still have a few

    that run well. Problems with the "economizers" was apparent at the push inserts for the condensing area. Many failed to clean the water after installation and the junk in the system ate the neoprene o-rings.

    Good luck. Just be aware, any used boiler will be sold "as is" 99% of the time.

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  • Boilerpro_3
    Boilerpro_3 Member Posts: 1,231
    Ken

    It sounds like you are talking about the VHE, the HE doesn't have an economizer. It's just a 83% or so power vent.

    Boilerpro
  • ishmael2k
    ishmael2k Member Posts: 39
    This is

    definitely the 83% power vent HE. As far as economy goes, I don't see how it could be any worse than my American Standard. Add to the equation that the AS is grossly oversized (175K btu unit and Slant Fin's heat loss program shows my house at 50K heat loss.) and I doubt that the AS runs at much more than 60% and the energy star ratings don't mean much..

    Thanks for the comments to date, still looking to find out if these were problem children or if they are just an older unit that should work fine for a couple of more years.

    Rob
  • Ken_8
    Ken_8 Member Posts: 1,640
    Correctomundo!

    I remembered the feature - incorrect model.

    You're right. It WAS the VHE that we still have a few of.

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  • Bryan_16
    Bryan_16 Member Posts: 262
    go ahead

  • Bryan_16
    Bryan_16 Member Posts: 262
    go ahead

    If it isn't beat up, it will probably work for awhile. I have several of these that I maintain and other than oiling of the exhaust blower, things work good.
  • ishmael2k
    ishmael2k Member Posts: 39
    Thanks Bryan,

    the unit looks to be in good shape, no external leaks and no rust anywhere. If I can get 3 yrs out of it that would be great, 2 is enough.

    Rob
  • Larry (from OSHA)
    Larry (from OSHA) Member Posts: 727
    as an owner

    of one, I can say that mine has worked without any problems for the past 20 or so years. If you want any specifics, feel free to email me directly. Good luck and keep looking for the long term replacement.

    Larry
  • Still going strong

    I put one in for my dad in 1986. We've replaced the burner control and the power vent motor, and one circ pump, several zone valves, one gas valve, several ignitors. I put in three in a duplex in Barrow, Alaska in 1988. All I've done to the three of them is one power vent motor, and one ignitor. I thought that was pretty good, considering we heat 12 months up there. I should also mention that they are all set up with glycol, no auto feed on any of them. I think that may contriubute to a longer life.
  • Paul Brockfeld
    Paul Brockfeld Member Posts: 3
    W-M HE Boiler

    Look at the boiler closely. If it has an HSI ignition system, you should be okay if the boiler is in good condition. If it has the White-Rodgers mercury flame sensor and spark ignition, I'd stay away from it unless you are willing to spend the dollars to convert it to HSI. Certain boilers with the mercury flame sensor were problem children. Converting to HSI seems to make the problems go away. That conversion is not inexpensive. Remember that all HE boilers are now 10+ years old. I'm in wholesale and we sell a fair amount of replacement parts for these boilers. Mostly inducer motors, mercury flame sensors, and pilots. Once in a while an ignitor or module if boiler is HSI. I'm not a fan of used equipment but I hope this helps you make a decision.
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