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frank_25
frank_25 Member Posts: 202
in THE MAIN WALL
As the heating supervisor for a boiler oriented fuel oil and plumbing company in Queens,NY, I was given the task of installing 3 150,00 BTU condensing boilers, primary/ secondary, snow melt W/2 zone-12 loop 5/8" pex, additional zone for 3 loop garage heat, 3 radiant loops, 8 more pumps for panel type heaters in the house, and a reverse flow 60 gal. storage tank. The mechanical room is 8.5'X 10'!!!
A logistical nightmare to say the least. Not to mention 2 expansion tanks, a glycol injector and a total of 20 circ's which needed to have their minimum straight runs mantained. Did I mention the Super -sized spyro vents and strainers, check valves, flow valves, globe valves, ball valves, relief valves, pressure and separate temp. guages, & over 100' of 1 1/2' kindorf?
Had to mount the boilers on the middle wall, so that doubled the length of the primary loop (2" type L)
Other than two minor design changes after the fact, we are on schedule and chewen' up copper.

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  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,387
    Sounds like

    you met the challenge. How about some pics? We love this stuff!

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  • Mike Kraft_2
    Mike Kraft_2 Member Posts: 398
    That sounds.................

    aMAZING!!!Agree with steamhead,pics?

    cheese
  • frank_25
    frank_25 Member Posts: 202


    I'll get some pics out soon, but see if you can open this I did in a "paint" program.
  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
    yeah, we crave scantly clad boilers ;)

    and some of the nicely dressed ones too!!!
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,387
    Didn't work.....

    try converting it to a JPEG file and posting that. Bitmap files like those used in Paint are often too big to post.

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  • frank_25
    frank_25 Member Posts: 202


    here's the JPEG try.
  • Patchogue Phil_22
    Patchogue Phil_22 Member Posts: 7
    Save As...

    In MS Paint, just save the bitmap as a GIF or JPG file. Click File...Save As... In the Save As window, from drop down Save As type... choose GIF or JPG.

    HTH

    Phil
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    not to diminish the adventure ......

    Computer Lessons Outasite! :)) Man i am definitely among the computer challanged....send an e-mail took me weeks:)))
    put on an attachment months! :)) Thank God for this Wall:)
    ..maybe it would be a good thing to have some place here where we could pull up to help post a picture or add an e-mail attachment,or make the delta Tau or degree sign,ordraw a picture and send it..stuff you guys think to be second nature is not quite so easy when a guys got hunt and peck key board skills :(
    put a meg in a spot made for a water heater :) Easy :) end a message with a foot note or blue letter link...ok it might be Tursday eleventeenth of Nevuary Earliest before i can get this done:)))
  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
    here's a pic of what he means by \"save as\"

  • Mad Dog
    Mad Dog Member Posts: 2,595
    Ranshaw?

    Mad Dog

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  • frank_25
    frank_25 Member Posts: 202
    RANSHAW

    YEAH, I'M FROM RANSHAW. HOW'D YOU GUESS?
    HERE IS MY RENDERING WITH ALL OF THE SMALLER VALVES AND GUAGES OMITTED. PICS TO FOLLOW IN A FEW DAYS.
  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    That's a great drawing, Frank

    a virtual boiler room!

    How do you establish flow through the boilers? Are there boiler pumps not shown? Do all boilers fire at the same time? And wye so many wye strainers :)

    Can't wait to see the installation pictures.

    hot rod

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  • frank_25
    frank_25 Member Posts: 202


    The boilers have internal Grunfos circs. The boilers are also individual high/ low fire, and modulation of one,two or all controlled by techmar.
    Thanks for the compliment on my diagram.
  • frank_25
    frank_25 Member Posts: 202


    One strainer protects the boilers; one protects the boiler side of the HX, and the other takes care of the glycol side of the HX. We've used nine lbs of 95/5 in two weeks, and plenty of flux. There are a lot of unmentionables inside the piping, and expensive replacement parts so even though we plan to do a very thoro flush out, the strainers will protect as they serve.
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    The Picture speaks Volumes...

    nice drawings got colour too! :)
    One heck of a show case piece...like reading a book one can visualize the room and the dimensionality of the boiler system. looks to be a Great Statement!
  • Hoist
    Hoist Member Posts: 5
    Total Radiant Plant System Design

    If anyone is reading this, Please refer to "Do What?There?Continued". I have some questions to complete the terminal side of my plant/system. Anyone have answers? Thanks.
  • Kevin_16
    Kevin_16 Member Posts: 18
    Boilers

    Hey Frank,
    Just curious what boilers did you use for the job? It looks really great and I lok forward to seeing the application pics
    kev
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