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water volume

MikeA1
MikeA1 Member Posts: 5
Rookie here. Want to heat a shop 60' X 80'. Intend on 16 loops. Building has 16' overhang, 4-12x14 OH doors, 1-8x10 OH door. Insulation is 3" fiberglass all around. Using Insultarp under my six inch concrete pad. Using 500,000 btu boiler. Currently have 3/4" Kitec 60'away from boiler. Will the 3/4 provide enough water from boiler? Or do I need to split the building and run another set of lines from the boiler? Does this set up sound OK or am I all wet?

Thanks Mike

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  • MikeA1
    MikeA1 Member Posts: 5
    water volume

    Rookie here. Want to heat a shop 60' X 80'. Intend on 16 loops. Building has 16' overhang, 4-12x14 OH doors, 1-8x10 OH door. Insulation is 3" fiberglass all around. Using Insultarp under my six inch concrete pad. Using 500,000 btu boiler. Currently have 3/4" Kitec 60'away from boiler. Will the 3/4 provide enough water from boiler? Or do I need to split the building and run another set of lines from the boiler? Does this set up sound OK or am I all wet?

    Thanks Mike
  • Karis hvac
    Karis hvac Member Posts: 9
    3/4 inch pipe

    Check out Dan's book "The Golden Rules of Hydronic Heating" We figued 8-10 gpm=1" pipe maybe 1 1/4"
  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    Depends.....

    a friend asked a similar question,look lets just lash up some 3/4 rehau or wirsbo tap it into the 2" let it do its thing.... about two weeks later we hooked it into our caravaned boilers and thier 1 1/2" header bagged the rehau and its been running fine.... the building is ten times the size of yours. i dont know kitec. i could look it up in the inter net or on one of my numerous programs that i seldom if ever use:)) building has , 2 20 ' doors 3 16'all kinds of man doors glass all over one wall a group of offices a conference room,board room blah blah blah blah blah....out side temp in the 20 and 30s at night i just didnt see a reason for concern...30 below maybe i wouldnt be quite so bold:)
  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,908
    500,000 btu's?

    How did you come up with that number? That is a heat loss of 100 btu's/ft/hour.

    Just curious.

    Mark H

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  • Weezbo
    Weezbo Member Posts: 6,232
    I Think....

    Mark is asking with a half a meg radiating heat what would you need radiant floor heat for?
  • MikeA1
    MikeA1 Member Posts: 5


    The 500,000 number is what the outside wood boiler has a Max output of. Again, I will have 16 loops of 300' 1/2" pex in 6" concrete. Supply will be 3/4" from the boiler to the shop, it is 60' away. Will use a Taco 011 pump. ??????

    Thanks
    Mike
  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    Has a total heat loss....

    been done? From the way that the question has been posed it sounds like not....VERY important. You say you want to do 16 loops where did that # come from? 300' is pushing the limit on 1/2"...3/4" is undersized; w/ a 20F delta T the max is 40,000 btu's...MOST radiant systems are figured @ 10F delta T so the pipe size needed is much bigger...one the concrete goes in it will too late to shorten your tube lengths....please don't guess, get the numbers so you know...kpc

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