Do I *NEED* good water to clean a system?

George_10

about our two hydronic products (cleaner & treatment) on our web site. TSP is not a full service cleaner. It also does not leave any protection in place for the various metals found in a modern hydronic system. www.rhomarwater.com

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Mark_25

I'm about to fill my system for the first time, nothing but air in it now. I am going to fill with a solution of TSP and water to clean the system of the oils and flux and whatnot and run for a week or so then flush it all out and put in my De-ionized/Antifreeze solution. Do I NEED to put in De-ionized water for the cleaning, or can I run tap water? My water here is somewhat hard, and the system will NOT be connected to a water source full time. What do you all do on your initial fills?

Ken_8

TSP

is the perfect choice to clean all the flux, oils and "chemical soup" ingrediants from a new boiler install. Plain jane tap water is perfect.

A week is a long time. Put about one oz. of TSP per 10,000 BTU's of boiler size in, heat all zones to at least 120 degrees and run for at least an hour - but no need for more than four. Rinse system and bleed all zones completely. Traces of TSP will probably remain and that's a good thing. TSP is alakaline and closed heating systems "love" a pH between 7.0 and 8.0.

Disolve the TSP in a small bucket/can of hot water first.

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Drew_2

Clean new system

As a precleaner TSP will do a fine job. You can never go wrong with using DI or distilled water,but for the cleaning phase your Tap water shouldn't do harm. George's product is very good for systems that have a history of bad water and poor maintenace.

George_10

Poor maintenance is usually the result of no treatment

> As a precleaner TSP will do a fine job. You can

> never go wrong with using DI or distilled

> water,but for the cleaning phase your Tap water

> shouldn't do harm. George's product is very good

> for systems that have a history of bad water and

> poor maintenace.

George_10

Poor maintenance

is usually the result of no treatment in the system. We suggest a two step process of cleaning a system thoroughly and then treating it so that there is very little chance of chemical problems developing over the next year.

These problems include corrosion, scale, sludge, low pH, and nothing to control any free oxygen that is getting into the system. I speak with contractors every day that have problems such as these and they could have been prevented.

Bad fill water is easy to take care of. Use DI water for the final fill. It is free of minerals and along with treatment, make a trouble free chemical world for the system to operate within. If the system has no leaks and does not need additional water over time this should prevent any future problems.

Servicing a new system is akin to servicing a new car. You would not drive a new car without it and we believe the same should be done for new hydronic systems. Both have
substantial price tags and prevention of problems is much lower in cost than repairs and replacement.

Mark_25

Sounds like I'm good to go then. I have my DI water already, I'll just hook to the tap for my cleaning, and flush and fill with the good stuff the next day. It's a slab system, so it'll take a while to get that hot. 120F sounds a little high for a concrete slab though.

Phil_8

Please excuse the dumb question: How do you get the cleaning agent into the system?

George_10

A hydronic system that is turned off

a small hand pump or small electric pump and we ship in both 1 and 5 gal jugs. With no pressure to speak of it does not take a lot to get it in the system.

Flushing is another question and each system will need to be looked at for a convenient way out and a place for the flush to go. Our products are enviromentally safe which makes them easier to use and dispose of the flush.

There are many on the wall that do this and I am sure each has their favorite way to do this job.