USS North Carolina battleship

ScottMP

My father-in-law and I took my two sons to see the World War II battle ship the North Carolina.

Heres some photos.

Check out the piping.

Mattdog, the photos of the gauges I took just for you.

Scott

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ScottMP

Piping

was threaded brass and then soldered. Anybody here who used to do this work ?

Heres some gauges for Matt

Scott



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Firedragon_4

Although I was in the USAF, I was

taught heating mostly by USN personnel at Port Heuneme, CA. Great instructors, both USAF and USN and the Navy takes loving care of its boilers. NOBODY, nobody does it better than the USN. They better, because in combat, it may mean your butt, FACT! Triple cross the t's, double dot the i's.

S Ebels

The last time

We were there with the kids, there was a big ol' gator laying in the long grass on the starboard side. The lads got as much of a bang out of it as they did the ship. I'd love to have been in that boiler room when it was up and running at full steam. Just to hear it, touch it, feel all that horsepressure around you.......... I'm getting all sweaty and shakey just thinking about it. Those boilers turned what, 4 16 foot diameter propellers?

Unknown

I lived on a steam ship.

In 1979-1980, I lived here.

On deck, all you could hear was the groaning of the rudder as waves pushed against it.

She was pretty fast, for a silent ship. We snuck up beside a 65 footer in the dark with all the lights out, one time. When we were 20' from her broadside, we turned on all the lights.

Talk about adrenaline....

The steam boilers were named Huff & Puff.

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Noel


USCGC ROGER B. TANEY -- DEFENDER OF HONOLULU HARBOR 7 DECEMBER 1941

A historical synopsis from original WW2 records by CAPTAIN DENNIS M. EGAN USCG

When the Japanese attacked on 7th of December 1941, three Coast Guard ships were moored in Honolulu harbor and one was on patrol just to the west of Barber's Point Lighthouse. They were:

Coast Guard Cutter TANEY, a 327 ft. high endurance cutter moored at Pier 6.
Coast Guard Cutter RELIANCE, a 125 ft cutter moored at Pier 4.
Coast Guard Patrol Boat CG-8 an 83 ft patrol boat moored at Pier 4.
Coast Guard Cutter TIGER, a 125 ft cutter underway near Barber's Pat. Light.

On the morning of December 7th, The Coast Guard Cutter TIGER, was conducting offshore operations near the Barbers Point Lighted Buoy, In the words of the Commanding Officer of CGC TIGER, Lt. W. J. Massoni, "At 0745 we were fired upon by what appeared to be shells from an offshore vessel beyond the horizon. About the same time bombs were dropped within an area of 100 yards about the TIGER from planes flying at a high altitude and several of the planes approached from the direction of Pearl Harbor, (my) crew at General Quarters maning antiaircraft batteries. Planes that were flying low were identified as Japanese with the red ball insignia. Machine gun burst were heard from planes but did not affect the TIGER, At 0820 TIGER was proceeding for designated war time station off entrance to Honolulu Harbor arriving there at 0920. There appeared to be spasmodic air attacks upon the city of Honolulu and Pearl Harbor as viewed from this station maintained. During this attack the TIGER suffered no hits or casualties but approximately 16 shells and bombs dropped within 100 yards distance about the ship"

Despite it being Sunday morning, the readiness of the Coast Guard Cutters was impressive. For instance, in the words of the Commanding Officer of the CGC TANEY, "When anti-aircraft fire was first observed over Pearl Harbor on December 7th, general quarters were sounded and all officers not on board ordered to return. The anti-aircraft battery as wess as all other guns were ready to fire with their full crew and three officers at their stations within four minutes. The remaining officers, with one exception, were onboard less than ten minutes later. Steam was oradered and vessel was ready to get underway" Between 0901 and 0918 the CGC TANEY opened fire on scattered formations w of Japanese planes with 3"guns.

The crew of CG-8 swiftly mounted its machine gun, provided all small arms and ammunition availaable, and wound up engines ready for getting underway within minutes of the air raid sirens. In the words of the Officer in Charage of CG-8, BM1 Boyd C. Maddox "Aat approximately 0900 was sent out by orders of Base Operaations Officer to Sand Island, T.H. At 0905 while contacting former Lighthouse Dock at Sand Island, picking up Depot Keeper, one Bomb burst to the stern of the CG-8, on mud flat across channel from Piers 31 and 32, Honolulu. Then continuning while enroute farom Sand Island to Pier 4, observed one bomb explode aabout fifty yards east of #6 main channel buoy, Honolulu Harbor entrance, and only a few yards southeast of gate boom control to Honolulu Harbor. While underway, proceeding top speed to Pier r, this vessel was aattacked by machine gunfire from plane, with no hits on crew or vessel. Bullets came within twenty feet off starboard bow. ... During this air attack every member present of the crew of this vessel did his duty in a quick and egara manner and showed couraage and willingness to meet any emergency that might come" CG-8 was to last throughout the way and ultimately under the command of Ensign Richard S. Peer was awarded the bronze star medal for distinguished combat action on D Day at Normandy.

The Commanding Officer of the CGC TANEY noted that, "At 1135, we opened fire with #3 gun on a small formation of enemy planes which had passed over the city from north to south and were almost overhead at the time of firing. One of the planes appeared to drop a bomb on Sand Island. No report was heard but dust and smoke were observed as the bomb bounced into the mud flats"

At 11:58 as a wave of five Japanese aircraft attempted a a glide bombing or strafing attack on Honolulu's main power plant, both the CGC TANEY at pier 6 and the CGC RELIANCE at Pier 4 furiously engaged their 3" guns creating a wall of anti-aircraft shrapnel. The CGC TANEY also defended with four 50 caliber machine guns when the planes were in range. In the words of the Commanding Officer of the CGC TANEY CDR. L. B. Olsen, "No direct hits by the 3" guns were definitely seen but planes were rocked by the fire and swerved up and away. Several 50/Cal. tracers appeared to pierce wing and tail structure of on plane. No bombs or machine gun bullets were received aboard nor observed falling near-by. 54 rounds of 3" shrapnel were expended and about 25o rounds of 50/Cal. ammunition ... A fairly satisfactory volume of fire was obtained but it was not as great as would have been desirable, due to interference with loading from splinter shielding at that particular angle of fire ... The officers and crew bore themselves well although most members of the crew had no training except drill and had never seen anything above a 50 caliber fired."

The attack on the power plant didn't last long. The CGC RELIANCE ceased fire by 1210, the planes being out of range. Had the Japanese been successful at knocking out Honolulu's main power plant, the ensuring days and nights would have been even more chaotic than they were, and undoubtedly more lives would have been lost.

In recognizing the U.S. Coast Guard Cutter TANEY as the Defender of Honolulu Harbor". we in no way wish to diminish the contributions of the CGC RELIANCE, the CGC TIGER,, or CG-8. Rather we use the memory of the CGC TANEY, ;whose Commanding Officer was the Senior Coast Guard Officer Present Afloat (SOPA), to symbolize our respects for all of the Coast Guard cutters and their crews that valiantly pitted their small ships against the enemy, and boldly defended Honolulu Harbor to the best of their ability on that fateful day if infamy, December 7, 1941.

And later....

In April 1969 TANEY was assigned to Coast Guard Squadron three for a ten-month deployment to Operation MARKET TIME off the Vietnamese coast. MARKET TIME was the program to interdict the flow of enemy men and material to South Vietnam from the Communist North. During the tour of duty, while based at Subic Bay, Philippines, TANEY steamed over 52,000 miles, inspecting over 1,000 vessels. As a shore bombardment ship she fired more than 3,400 five-inch shells at enemy positions. One such mission lasted five hours. Also, TANEY’s medical staff treated almost 6,000 Vietnamese villagers. Her service was recognized by the Republic of Vietnam with the award of the Vietnamese Presidential Unit Citation. In February 1970, almost twenty-five years after she last saw combat at Okinawa, TANEY RETURNED TO Alameda. “Queen of the Pacific,” the unofficial flagship of the Coast Guard’s Pacific Area commander, was home from her third Pacific war. *23

S Ebels

I can tell

From the way you write about it, I can tell that was a special time in your life that still holds many good memories. Always good to hear history from the mouths of men who were there instead of filtered and slanted by the media.

Unknown

The scariest thing I EVER did

We were underway, and we had to change the direction finder antenae. It was about 5' tall, 65 pounds, and mounted to a 4" pipe flange, 4 bolts.

I had to unbolt it and pass it down to 2 guys under me, while the ship was moving and swaying. The saftey strap at my waist was connected right up against the flange, and half of me was above the flange.

It was on top of the front mast, 180' above the water. See it in the picture? It's that bulbous thing on top.

I couldn't put it back up. I couldn't be the top guy. We put it back up, fixed, at a pier in Cuba.

We boarded Ted Turner's sailboat. Didn't know it was him till we got there.

We got bad guys, and picked up refugees.

We looked for a missing plane for a week, the one that had a football coach on it. We were out of food, when we finished, except powdered stuff.

I took pictures of the presidents palace in Haiti. I see it often on the news, still.

It was fun, Steve. You're right.

Noel

John R. Hall

In the presence of heroes...

I've met a couple of fine gentlemen over the past few years who are WWII vets -- true heroes to me. One man met General MacArthur and did some work on his headquarters. The other went in the water with 1200 shipmates when the U.S.S. Indianapolis was torpedoed and sunk by the Japs in the closing days of the war. He was one of only about 300 plucked from the ocean five days later. Unbelievable story of courage and yet this man talked about it matter-of-factly. It was truly humbling. I wrote a column on the man for The News, but I would like to write a book about him someday.

God Bless America and our troops overseas!

D lux_2

we were there 3years ago

stayed in holden beach 13 hr drive for us the boy was getting his first teeth on the way back fun ride ...going to yellowstone this year if we can afford the gas

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jackchips_2

Definetly

the Greatest Generation, John.

My late Father-in-law was in the Sea Bees stationed in London during the Blitz and was in the second wave at Normandy.

He never considered himself a hero. Just doing his job.

Mad Dog

Thanks Scotty......

That is awesome. Mad Dog

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Mad Dog

......TEN...HUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As you were, sailors......Mad Dog

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Mad Dog

Thank you for your service, Noel

you are a credit to the Coast Guard and our Great Country. The Coast Guard does not get enough credit for the fine work they do - especially during times of war. Mad Dog

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Mad Dog

Many succumbed to a feeding frenzy of sharks

what a way to go huh?? God Bless Those boys.. Mad Dog

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bob young

AMMO SHIPS

WORKED ON PIPING SYSTEMS AS A PIPEFITTER IN LATE SIXTIES. EVERYTHING WAS BRAZED T.P. WALWORTH VALVES W/ UNION S INLET AND OUTLET . MINIMUM FITTINGS EVERYTHING BENT W/ WIRE TEMPLATES. EXCELLENT WORK. BRAND NEW NAVY AMMO SHIPS AND SUBS QUINCY,MASS.

Jeff Lawrence_24

USS North Carolina

We stopped by and visited the battleship North Carolina in July of 2002. Man, what a Ship!

It was awe inspiring visit. I found it hard to imagine the heat and close quarters the crew members had to put up with. They did almost everything on that ship, from the laundry to shoe repair to barbering.

If I remember correctly, the USS North Carolina was a comissioned ship of the fleet for only about six or eight months. She joined the fleet and the extra firepower helped end the war early.

My thoughts and thanks to those brave men.

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S Ebels

Where'd

Where did you stay at Holden Beach. Some Friends of ours own a couple of the beachfront "cottages" there.

S Ebels

My father-in-law

> the Greatest Generation, John.

>

> My late

> Father-in-law was in the Sea Bees stationed in

> London during the Blitz and was in the second

> wave at Normandy.

>

> He never considered himself

> a hero. Just doing his job.

S Ebels

My father-in-law

Was in tanks for the last two years of the war. He told me a little about the Battle Of the Bulge. From what he told me, it was horrid, basically Hitler's last major offensive. He said that old men and children as young as 10-11 years old were thrown into the battle and the GI's fought them just like any other soldiers. They had too. Whenever he would get to that part, his voice would get tight and you could see in his eyes that he was reliving the whole thing again. He was right back there all over. His voice would just trail off and he would be silent, sometimes he would cry. He never could get the whole story out, though it seemed he wanted to tell me so he would be sure someone could tell it after he was gone. He passed away in 1998 without ever being able to get it all out. To me, when I think about all that generation went through, the Depression, the War, building America after the War, they truly are the greastest generation.

ScottMP

My Dad

Passed away 20 years ago. He was a radio man on a destroyer. It was really odd, but standing there looking at that ahip and realising that my Dad was a 18 year old kid on a ship like that gave me the chills.

He told me some storeys, but his biggest moment was translating the message that the war was over. He had to walk up to the captain and stand there while he read the message. Can you imagine holding in that news and not being able to say anything untill the captain did. I would think you would want to yell it out.

Scott

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John R. Hall

U.S.S. Alabama

When I was visiting Mobile a few years ago I took time to visit the U.S.S. Alabama, which is permanently moored there. The nice part about the visit was that I was there during the week near closing time and there were only a few other tourists on the battleship. It was awesome to have my run of the ship, if only for a few moments. What a mechanical marvel!

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WOW

I love visiting those behemoths...If you ever get the opportunity to visit a supercarrier like the America or the NIMITZ..Do it..they are AMAZING!!
Mike

BillW@honeywell

Preserved battleships

The USS Alabama, Massachusetts, Missouri, New Jersey, North Carolina, Texas all are open for visitors. The Alabama, Massachusetts and the North Carolina are representative of the first "fast" battleships that were available after Pearl Harbor. They could keep up with the carriers. Their nealry identical sisters, Washington and South Dakota, fought toe-to toe with Japanese battleships around Guadalcanal and were the only modern battleships available in the early days of the WW2. Neither was preseved, but they hold the record for the most aircraft ever shot down in a single day by a battleship. The Missouri hosted the signing of the Japanese surrender, and is moored in Pearl Harbor in the next berth to the hallowed remains of the USS Arizona, destroyed on Dec.7, 1941. The four Iowa class battleships (Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri & Wisconsin) still exist, and are either preserved or in the process of being restored for exhibition. The Texas is the oldest, and is close to what the ships that were in Pearl Harbor were like, while the Iowas represent the pinnacle of U.S.battleship development.

My old ship, the Coast Guard Cutter Dallas, looked like a lifeboat alongside the USS New Jersey! She is 378' long, the same size as a WW2 Fletcher class destroyer. We had a single 5" gun, and we dumped 7,665 rounds of ammo on old Charlie Cong around the Ong Doc River in 1969-1970. She is still in commission, and was in the harbor of Port-Au-Prince, Haiti during the recent troubles there. Semper Paratus!

George_10

I have known flyers from WWII

who I flew with in the early 60s in SAC. They had terrific stories and great pictures from bombing runs they made.

Also, I knew two men who were recipients of the Silver Star. Never knew a Medal of Honor veteran in person.

The most chilling story was from my Friend who commanded a landing craft on D-Day and the fact that he made several round trips into Omaha Beach. He said it was so bad that some of the landing craft commanders were letting their troops off far from shore and in water that was too deep.

He looked me right in the eye and said, I could never have done that cause I couldn't look myself in the mirror if I had of done it. As the landings wore on there was nothing but carnage on the way into the beach. Bodies, blood, shot up craft and still the landings and the killings continued.
He said it was the longest day of his life. He was awarded the Silver Star, but as he told me. I was only doing my job and the guys hitting the beach were the real heros in his opinion. As many here have said, these folks should certainly be remembered for all time. There is something to be said for those who exhibit great courage while at the same time being scared to death. That to me is the best example of "grace under pressure" and even a better definition of true courage.

D lux_2

cant remember

it was bout 1/2 way down the main road wasnt on the beach otherside of road had steps in the front with a 2 car garage under house ,junkatrol a/c way up I would hate to work on it . going west this year

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ScottMP

SO to wind this up

I am Definatly taking the boys down to Fall River to see battleship cove.


Scott

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BillW@honeywell

That's a good museum...

They've got a sub, a PT boat, and a destroyer(Sumner class, I think)plus the Massachusetts. They recently added a restored floatplane to sit on the catapult on the fantail of the battleship. If your boys follow the same pattern as the kids I've taken to various Naval exhibits, they'll like the sub! Go figure. The USS Cassin Young, a WW2 Fletcher Class destroyer is preserved in Boston, and of course the USS Constitution is there too. It was a real exercise to keep the little rascals from doing some serious climbing on the rigging of the Constitution, to them it was just a big playground toy, I'll bring them back when they are big enough to understand how important that, and the other ships really are.

John R. Hall

Saving Private Ryan

George:

Your post gave me a flashback to that opening scene on Normandy Beach from "Saving Private Ryan." It was the most intense scene I have ever seen on the big screen and I can't imagine the horror going through the minds and in front of the eyes of our brave soldiers. I am humbled by what these heroes meant to our country.

George_10

I remember vividly my reaction when this

D-Day story was told to me. I listened to his quiet telling of this horror and I got cold chills and the hair on my neck stood up. The other shoe to this story was after this action he was gettting ready to be shipped to the Pacific to do the same thing when we came a shore in Japan. Fortunately that never became a reality. The two atom bomb drops saved him from having to go through it again and maybe worse.

I will always have great respect for that man. I have often wondered if I were put to such a test, how I would react. I never want to find out, but I still try to imagine what my mind and body would do in such a circumstance. I guess we all will never know unless we are put to the actual test. It sure removes any glory from war for me. Maybe that is why most people that have been there are reluctant to send our young people in harms way unless it is really necessary. Could be the reason that most generals are the last ones to advocate going to war. They remember their own battles with themselves while fighting an
enemy.