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More changes coming - Dan H.

DanHolohan
DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
suggested in one of the threads that what this site needs is a "Product Review" area where people can post their experiences with products and systems (both good and bad) for others to consider.

I think this is great idea and the timing is right. For quite a while, I've been watching the On the Job section of the site and I don't think it's lived up to my expectations. It's been there from the first day, and it was also on the old site, but relatively few pros have added to it (although a lot of people read it each day).

I'm going to take these stories and move them to the new Library as soon as that's ready (looks like in a week or so), and I'm going to have Invision modify On the Job so that it's a place where you can review products and systems.

When you submit a review, it will come to me by email. I'll read it over and fix any spelling mistakes before posting it. I'll pass on any review that attempts to flame people or products, so please don't bother sending any of those my way. Being respectfully critical is helpful to everyone; being nasty isn't. You guys know what I mean.

Your review will become a permanent part of the site. It won't fall off as the Wall posts do (although you can get any of those back by using the Search feature).

I'll also ask you to provide your name, location (state/province), company affiliation (if any) and valid email address so that anyone with follow-up questions can ask them of you. I'll post those with your review.

If we all handle this new feature in a mature way I think it will really help a lot of people make decisions, especially the thousands of homeowners who visit this site each day.

Thanks for your continuing support. This is what we're doing with the money from the bricks that many of you are buying. In order to milk the cow, you also have to feed the cow. ;-)

Thanks.
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Comments

  • John Abbott
    John Abbott Member Posts: 358
    great idea Dan..

    especialy the valid email address it is much easier to be obnoxious and critical if no one can reply to you personally.

    John
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Critical, yes.

    Obnoxious need not apply.

    I'm hoping that what we'll see will be well-thought-out reviews, good or bad, made by people who are willing to answer follow-up questions. Those will take place in private.

    And these reviews, as I said, will be permanent to the site. Sort of makes you want to do the right thing, doesn't it?
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    'nother brick coming

    to help with that cow..
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Thanks, pal.

    I promise to turn it into something good.
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  • Would this also allow manufactuers

    to respond to information posted about thier products?

  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    No,

    but they can use the Wall for that if they'd like. On the Job will be a place for individual opinions. It should build over time to give an overall picture of products and systems. From this, consumers can draw their own opinions, Tim.
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  • Nick W
    Nick W Member Posts: 200
    My opinion. Not that you asked...

    I think it's a great idea and I will refer to it often, I'm sure.

    I must admit, though, that I wish you would let the posts display as written. I use the internet for all types of product reviews and consider things like the grammar, spelling and sentence structure used by the poster to help determine with which reviewers I might tend to agree.

    Call me obnoxious, but if you can't spell "hydronics" you lose the right to comment on the equipment.

    It's not fair to the manufacturers...

    ..and they're always so good to us.

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Good point,

    and I'll take your advice, John. Less work for me. ;-)
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  • Boilerpro_3
    Boilerpro_3 Member Posts: 1,231
    Dan H

    You might want to take a look at the tirerack.com website. They have literally thousands of reviews for the tires they sell, and they are categorized by use. Just a thought for a pattern as to how to set it up..... no sense in reinventing the wheel.

    BP
  • Ed_13
    Ed_13 Member Posts: 164
    JohnNY's post re spelling

    > and I'll take your advice, John. Less work for

    > me. ;-)



  • Ed_13
    Ed_13 Member Posts: 164
    Re John's post

    Dan,

    I do agree that John has a valid point. However you should also be careful not to judge a real pro in the HVAC industry by his proficiency as a typist. I type well, but I do have errors. Therefore I use Word and then copy & paste to this & other sites that I frequent, when I post. In doing so, I can use my spell check in Word to correct any errors in typing or spelling.

    Just a Thought,
    Ed Carey
  • Ed_13
    Ed_13 Member Posts: 164
    Re John's post

    Dan,

    I do agree that John has a valid point. However you should also be careful not to judge a real pro in the HVAC industry by his proficiency as a typist. I type well, but I do have errors. Therefore I use Word and then copy & paste to this & other sites that I frequent, when I post. In doing so, I can use my spell check in Word to correct any errors in typing or spelling.

    Just a Thought,

    Regards,

    Ed Carey
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    In what part of the site

    is it? Thanks.
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Good advice.

    It's attention to detail, and I think it does affect the way the consumer views the tradesperson, especially if the spelling mistakes show up in a proposal. People begin to wonder what the work is going to look like if the proposal for the work is careless.

    First impressions. I think that's the point John was making.
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  • R. Kalia
    R. Kalia Member Posts: 349
    looking at the mirror

    > Call me obnoxious, but if

    > you can't spell "hydronics" you loose the right

    > to comment on the equipment.


    And what if you can't spell "lose"?
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Then

    that would appear as well. ;-)
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  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    can'y we have a spell check

    added as part of the posting procedure? a spell check button.
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Ed_13
    Ed_13 Member Posts: 164
    Bricks

    Dan,

    Point well taken , (yours & Johns), about the first impression.

    BTW, I saw your post about the bricks.

    That was one of my ROUNDTUIT things.

    This site is worth its weight in gold.

    Thank you for dedicating so much time to it.


    I got my ROUNDTUIT, and I just purchased 5 bricks.

    Best regards,

    Ed Carey
  • Boilerpro_3
    Boilerpro_3 Member Posts: 1,231
    If you.....

    click search your tire size under "Start Shopping" then click "Go" next to the tire size, you will get a list of all tires available for that size. Toward the right center of the screen you will see "Reviews", Click here.

    BP
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Not pracical, Gerry,

    but if you write in Word, spellcheck, and then just cut and paste to the site it will be fine. Thanks.
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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Thanks!

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  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Got it.

    Thanks.
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  • Nick W
    Nick W Member Posts: 200
  • Mark Hunt
    Mark Hunt Member Posts: 4,908
    dOn\"t pheele baD


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    WE awl mayk missteakes sumtimeS>>

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    Marck h

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  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
    while you are at it,

    we need a way on the wall, to delete truncted or duplicate messages - today, all we can do, is "edit", and empty them, but the msg shell still clutters the tree,

    there should also be a "wrap mode display" button, so that when trees get very indented, you can clik on that button and re-wrap the msgs to fit the view

    as well as an auto-image button - so that pictures that auto-display with msgs - should only auto-display if you want them to

    thanks
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,610
    Thanks, but

    this is licensed software that Invision provides (done by others) and it can only do what it does.
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  • Mad Dog
    Mad Dog Member Posts: 2,595
    You know how I feel..........................

    Let 'er rip..........Mad Dog

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