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Bad(Heatmaker) to worse(Quietside)

doug_10
doug_10 Member Posts: 102
Need something to fit in a small mechanical room (~ 3'x6') to replace this Quietside that was installed in place of an old Heatmaker. Heatmaker was originally spec'd. because it provided heat to 3 zones, DHW, sealed combustion, with a small footprint. I'm guessing it might have partially been because of weight issues as well, it's located on the first floor.

What have you guys been replacing the Heatmakers with? Are there still positive reports from the field with the Munchkins? Didn't Laars come up with something similar (and a lot better) when they bought out Heatmaker? What else would fit the bill?

Happy Holidays to all, thanks for your help!

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  • kevin coppinger_4
    kevin coppinger_4 Member Posts: 2,124
    yes munchkins

    are great but you need a seperate water heater...space??? The Trinity (NY thermal)has had good reviews too. what you are refering to is the Enderance I have heard good things about that too, these have space and hot water in 1 unit. Let us know how you fare...I have a bunch of Heatmakers out there waiting to die and was wondering what I would do...kpc
  • Dave_8
    Dave_8 Member Posts: 49
    Quietside

    so what was the problem with the quietside??
  • David_5
    David_5 Member Posts: 250
    Enderance

    I wouldn't take one of these if it was free. Parts are way too expensive.
  • How about the Minuteman II

    Pretty much a direct replacement. Domestic Hot Water and Heating all in the same package. Hope this helps.

    Glenn Stanton

    Burnham Hydronics
  • Steve Miller
    Steve Miller Member Posts: 115
    Trinity

    We've been using the Trinity T150 and T200 and so far so good! Nice controls with reset, modulating gas valve, sealed combustion and DHW and in a box one man can hang alone. The only problem I've had was on one of their early models, the supply and return connections leaked at the unions where it connects to the heat exchanger. It's in back and I had to take it off the wall to tightened, no prob cuz I used unions and did it in 20 minutes. They've addressed that problem tho. Everything seemed really accessible and easy to work on. They didn't really give good instructions on how to checking the combustion but not really a problem if you know how to use a gas analyzer.

    Only time will tell if this is a reliable unit. I think Laars got in a hurry to release the Endurance without a lot of field testing. Early on we had a lot of control board failures, bad water pressure swithes made of plastic that would leak and fry the induced blower. They were good about relacing the boards after the warranty expired and they have redesigned the water switch and the induced blower. But it's really hard working on this boiler, hardly any room to replace the water switch. Good luck! Go Trinity!

    Steve M
  • Matt Connolly
    Matt Connolly Member Posts: 67
    Try a Monitor MZ...

    > We've been using the Trinity T150 and T200 and so

    > far so good! Nice controls with reset, modulating

    > gas valve, sealed combustion and DHW and in a box

    > one man can hang alone. The only problem I've had

    > was on one of their early models, the supply and

    > return connections leaked at the unions where it

    > connects to the heat exchanger. It's in back and

    > I had to take it off the wall to tightened, no

    > prob cuz I used unions and did it in 20 minutes.

    > They've addressed that problem tho. Everything

    > seemed really accessible and easy to work on.

    > They didn't really give good instructions on how

    > to checking the combustion but not really a

    > problem if you know how to use a gas analyzer.

    > Only time will tell if this is a reliable unit. I

    > think Laars got in a hurry to release the

    > Endurance without a lot of field testing. Early

    > on we had a lot of control board failures, bad

    > water pressure swithes made of plastic that would

    > leak and fry the induced blower. They were good

    > about relacing the boards after the warranty

    > expired and they have redesigned the water switch

    > and the induced blower. But it's really hard

    > working on this boiler, hardly any room to

    > replace the water switch. Good luck! Go

    > Trinity!

    >

    > Steve M



  • Matt Connolly
    Matt Connolly Member Posts: 67
    Try a Monitor MZ...

    They cost a little more but you'll have no problems. I've installed about 20 in the last 4 years although the customer initailly balked at the cost, the only thing they remember now is the quality. Funny how that works.

    Matt
  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,884
    We put in

    an Endurance two years ago and have had not one problem. We are in the process of installing another right now. Time wil tell but the fit the space and demand.

    Scott

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  • Ted_5
    Ted_5 Member Posts: 272
    Viessmann Vitodens

    is a good boiler form what you described. You will not have to replace that boiler anytime soon! Check it out!!

    Ted
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