I need to find a textbook for my class

Fred Schreiner_2

I need to find a textbook for my class at Monroe county Community College here in the Rochester, NY area. The class curriculum is a basic introduction to hydronic heating. The level is introductory and my focus is on the relationship between btu / flow / pressure drop / air removal / pump location. I do a very little bit with steam if the semester allows. We touch on all components including of course the near boiler stuff as well as terminal units and control schemes. The book we currently use is heavy on the theory and science and is a bit more than what the basic course requires.
If anyone has any suggestions please help.
Thanking you in advance I'll remain,
respectfully yours.
Fred Schreiner
Buckpitt & Co., Inc.
adjunct instructor: MCC Applied Technologies

Tom Meyer

Try one of these

"Radiant Basics" or "Radiant Precision" by John Siegenthaler.

The Basics is exactly that. A basic outline of hydronic theory and application. Radiant Precision gets more into the technical aspects.

If you have any questions, give me a call. Part of what our corporation does is radiant/hydronic training (among many others).

Tom Meyer
Senior Designer/Trainer
Precision Hydronics Corp
www.precisionhydronics.com

Earthfire

text books

I would strongly recommend using the group of books available at books and more in the "SUPERSIZE DAN" package. they present the material in a way that can get thru even my thick skull and will be usefull as your students progress thru their education and more then useful on the job. I wish that collection had been available when I was starting out.Would have saved me a lot of headaches.

Mark Eatherton1

Not sure if this is what you want, but

Modern Hydronic Heating For Residential and light Commercial Buildings, 2nd Edition. John Siegenthaler, P.E.

A Book Review by Mark Eatherton

The first time I read an article by John Siegenthaler was a piece he’d written on the prophecies of bull heading tees, and why it should be avoided. “Hmmm”, I thought to myself, “This guy could be the next Dan Holohan…” As it turns out, there is no possible replacement for Dan Holohan, but John Siegenthaler brought a whole new perspective of the engineering world to hydronic heating. He brings an insider look and easy to understand interpretation of those engineering terms down to a level that is easily understood by the typical field installer. He de-mystifies the engineering principals that have long been forsaken as too complicated to follow by the common man.

When John introduced Modern Hydronic Heating For Residential and Light Commercial Buildings, 1st Edition, I immediately purchased the book and immersed myself into John’s world. I found many of the explanations to be crisp and understandable. I dabbled in the mathematical sciences that John supplies to give a more detailed look at the overall picture of the mechanics behind hydronics. I adopted the book as the main course book to be used in two of the courses that I teach at Red Rocks Community College in Denver.

When John told me he was getting ready to introduce the 2nd Edition, I knew that it was destined to become an industry standard. The first one had already succeeded in becoming an industry recognized standard, and this edition is even better than the first.

It is chock full of new drawings, photographs and schematics that reflect advances in industry standards and technology since originally publishing his first edition nearly 10 years ago, and is tempered by John’s personal experiences. It has been expanded to include information pertaining to “state of the art” heat sources, including modulating/ condensing boilers, all the different types of solar systems, ground source heat pumps and a new section on wood burning boilers. He’s included drawings showing multiple fuel source boilers and how they’re interfaced into the system using primary secondary piping considerations.

The new version is less of the mathematician Siggy we’ve come to know, and more of the practical Siggy we’ve come to love. Although, for those of you algebraticians with the scientific calculators, its still got plenty of formulae for your indulgence and edification.

As with the first version, each chapter has a Questions and Exercise section at the end of each chapter. It also includes bold face Key Term words throughout the text, with a summary and complete list of Key Terms used in the preceding chapter.

At the back of the book is an expanded version of his original Air Removal that includes Purging and Filling, as well as new information for troubleshooting air problems on the fluid side of these systems.

The new text is 125 pages longer than the original text with lots of useful information for the typical hydronic technician to wrap their arms around.

As a bonus, each copy has an Academic Version of Siegenthaler’s Hydronic Design Studio Professional Version in a CD ROM version included. This is a light version of Siegenthalers Hydronics Design Studio Professional Version software, a definite must have for anybody designing, installing and servicing light commercial and residential hydronic heating systems. It allows you to design your own “what if” scenarios and allows you to switch critical components within the system at the blink of an eye to see what the net result and effect will be.

Although the Academic Version is limited in its capacity, it is adequate to help work out the problems given at the back of each chapter. It will also make you want to run out and purchase the full blown copy of the software at your earliest convenience.

This book is a must have if you are in the hydronic heating/cooling business.

ME

Weezbo

? what about taking the students into the boiler room?

right where you teach the course. then you could let everyone a look at what is done. now.... call some one in your area who does Residential or commercial or light industrial hydronic heating. take a look at THIER boiler room.:))) then check out one of THIER in stalls:) this will bring it all Home alot easier when you give them a reading list to peruse.

sootmonkey

Oh man

Oh man, why don't you ask me a hard question? With out a thought, I highly reccomened Dan Holohans book "Pumping Away". I wish that everyone that installs boilers would at least read that book. It would make my job as a service tech. that much easier. Primary and secondary pumping by Dan is a good next step. P.S. He charges peanuts for them.

Tom Meyer

Dan's Books

When I posted my reply about Siggy's books, I was assuming you had already looked at Dan's books.

The two books I always recommend to ALL my students is "Pumping Away" and "Primary-Secondary". We are putting a tech school course together and those are the two books that we considered absolutely mandatory. They are easy reads, full of information, and great for concepts.

I can't urge you enough to use them.


Tom Meyer
Senior Designer/Trainer
Precision Hydronics Corp
www.precisionhydronics.com

George_10

We will help any training class

with information about cleaning and treating systems to prevent chemical problems. We can supply literature and articles on the subject. I would only need to know the number of students you wish to cover.

George Hunt

Duane Chaffee

Hydronic Textbook

Fred, Let me endorse Mark's comment on Modern Hydronic Heating by Siegenthaler. Great book. I have used it for several years at Alfred State College (your neighbor). Give me a call sometime I would enjoy comparing notes. You can also reach me at the Chaffed@alfredstate.edu

Fred Schreiner_2

Thank you to everyone that responded.

I will be continuing my quest. Some of the suggestions were excellant. The challenge that I've found is coming up with a text that will help me through the entire 15 week semester.
Thanks again to everyone.
Fred