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ScottMP
ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
Of this circulator.

This is about six years old, Peerless gas fired, power vented, with four zone valves.

Customer said the circulator was making a whining noise. This is what we found. If you look close you can see the shiney spots where the impellor was hitting the build up, of what I assume is a iron sludge.

Scott

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    This is why

    I hammer so much about water quality and treatment.

    What type of distribution system? Piping material? Operating temperatures? Fill system on, or off?

    Check for leaks, sure looks like a problem caused by continous make up water. But if the system ran without a good purger, the O2 could cause this much damage even without additional fresh water.

    Clean em and treat em, or be prepared for a lot more of this. Especially on lower temperature systems.

    Fairly typical fill water ay 60°F has an O2 of 10ppm. At 140°F 4.72. At 180°F look for 2.7.

    A good inhibitor needs O2 scavangers, ph buffers, azoles for copper and brass protection, a plating chemical, and a dispersant for scale and sludge control.

    A good cleaner before final fill will get rid of oils and flux residue and remove any food source for bacteria to get a hold of.

    I have a shelf full of components that look like that. Some after only two years service!

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    The boiler

    wonder what it looks like inside? Efficiency? Good thing you didn't mention the serial number :)

    Sure like to see the boiler mans recommend some adequate cleaning methods and product choices. What %s of the residential boilers out there are looking like this, do you suppose.

    Give them a new boiler and split that old one open! We'd all like to see that innards.

    Tick, tick, tick :(

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  • ScottMP
    ScottMP Member Posts: 5,883
    HR

    This is a copper finned baseboard system with no reset. Three zones of heat and one indirect, so this unit does not have a long down period. That means this build up happened with a running circulator. I know I was shocked to see it.

    Not only could you here the pump screaming but I could feel poor circulaton when I first got the call. My thoughts also went to the cast iron block and its condition.

    How sad.

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
    Like I always say

    it didn't ship from the factory looking like that :)

    If you haven't found something wrong, something ain't right.

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