under stairs install

ScottMP

We did this job for a garage that the customer has a small company renovating windows. We have a small closet to install in and they wanted a little bathroom upstairs.

Chris A. put in this Teledyne Laars Indurance. It has heat and domestic in one unit and fits right under the stairs. We installed Buderus panels with constant flow. Nice little job with some neat piping by Chris. I wished I could get a better shot of the P/S piping with the ProPress tool.

Scott

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Dan Foley

Nice.....

job, Scott. You're in Ron, Jr. territory trying to fit everything in such a tight space. Gotta love that Pro-Press! I picked one up a few weeks ago and now the guys are fighting over it. -DF

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ScottMP

I have to keep telling Chris

Let the other kids play with it also.

Scott

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John Starcher_6

Hey Scott...

...here in Ohio (at least in my county) it is not permitted to place a fossil fuel burning appliance under a stairway due to potential fire hazard and eliminating a source of egress from the upstairs.

Is that legal where you are located? Not trying to be a smart alec, just curious....

Starch

J.C.A._3

John,

It is equipped with 5/8ths firecode sheetrock, will eventually have a door and is direct vent .The 1 thing nobody mentioned was that it's in a garage. When I walked into this one, there was a Trianco combination unit. Too bad .It wouldn't fly because the burner is on the floor.Would have had even LESS room to work too!(Ma. code says it's gotta be 18" off the ground, minimum) The codes for the LP tank placement were harder to satisfy than the fire codes. Chris

Mike Kraft_2

Nice yob:)

Interesting machine.I have'nt ventured to the Laars.Comfy with what I've been using.Old dog - new tricks heatboy raves over his propress.Perhaps one will be in the future cheese tool box!Try using a radiant manifold with the rad runs.Saves time and space and material and and and and......$$$.Keep up the fine work fellers:)

cheese

Unknown

Great work guys

It seems you had much LESS room to install this system than we get in a normal Levitt , with much more components than we normally use . I woulda had a breakdown trying to do what you guys did . Excellent job in such close quarters .

ScottMP

OH Pluullleeease

" I would have had a breakdown "

We are humbled by that remark from you sir .

I have a problem with the design under the stairs also. It was allowed to fly by the inspectors. Any architecs out there listening. O.K. now lean real close to the speakers ...

"MAKE MORE ROOM FOR THE BOILER"

Scott

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GaryDidier

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My knees ache just looking at this! nice job.
Gary from Granville

Unknown

Oh , I'm not kidding

We had a 4 zone boiler under the stairs a few months ago , and I was shell shocked after the job .

With the concept of having the boiler under the stairs - truth be told there are thousands of houses like this over here , and I have not heard of a fire being caused by one . With the new rules we adhere to - including a LWCO , and upgrading to cast iron , I have to say that every new boiler is much more safer than what was in there . Not totally safe , but an improvement .

Mad Dog

Nice Scott

Did JCA do that one? Mad Dog

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J.C.A._3

Yes,(humbly)......

This was my payback for being sick for a couple days. Ya snooze,ya lose, what can I say?

Just kidding! It was a great challenge, that I loved.My belly kept getting in the way, but I pursevered. Did you, or anyone else notice the spirals in the last photo ? I'm trying a new theory. I figure that swirling water will be easier to remove the air from .(obviously, an optical illusion, but I gotta think up some excuse for it)Thanks guys. A boost at this time of the year is greatly needed and appreciated. Chris. P.S. Jim is a Grade A tech.(the guy that did the Munchie install)Any of you would be glad to have him! Oh yeah, thanks Scott for giving me the time to do this right.

Kevin_12

under stairs

its against code in indianapolis to install fossil fuel units under stairs.

Unknown

Is that code for new houses only ?

What about existing houses and the boiler needs to be changed under the stairs ?

Boiler Guy

I share

the sentiment about under the stairs installs. That WOULD NEVER fly up here in Canada. Very nice install though. I noticed the rad in the pic ... Can you please tell me the manufacturer and wher I might obtain some info. Do you know if that mfgr has something similar for steam? Thanks in advance

Tim

Jamie_6

Nice looking job Scott! You guys sure are top notch. Like the Propress too, I just got one last week & LOVE it.

Hope all is well,

Jamie

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ScottMP

Buderus

We use them alot. Very happy.

They are not available for steam though. We have used a panel from a company called US Steam and I will post some pictures.

Scott

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J.C.A._3

Sorry for the mis info.

Site . For Steam, try Steamradiators.com . They are located in Ward Hill Ma. . They are also a sub-sidiary of the Runtal corp. and make a fine looking and viable alternative to your "run of the mill" steam radiator.

I've used them on a job, and found them to be attractive. The homeowner liked them and said they worked nicely.

I mounted them in a vertical position,(space limitations) and talked with a rep from the company . He told me the way it should be , and the advice was spot on.

Give it a shot. You can download some photos from the website and show them to the prospective customer. Let them tell you what THEY think. There isn't too much steam heat (residentially) left in Europe, but this is the newest way I've seen to deal with the lot that are left. Chris.

John Mills_3

Yes BUT

if the product is sealed combustion it is OK. Indiana Gas tried that on us when we replaced electric with a 90. The fact that it was direct vented was OK with code. Other areas may not agree but that's the way we read the code and they agreed.

ScottMP

Interesting

This is a direct vent unit. My reading was that it had to do with a fire blocking the access of the stairs.

Scott

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Tom Simensen

Nice job Scott and Chris !!

I thought this one that I did a while back was tight, but your project looks capable of causing claustophobia. Nice work!

At least I had a set of double doors to get in and out.

ScottMP

very neat Tom.

& I like the idea of putting the Tekmar up on a pipe. I may steal that

I love to see neat work.

Scott