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Kal Row
Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
i am doing a primary/secondary/injection manifold in and area 55w by 48H, needless to say, the primary and secondary are somewhat overlaid on each other in 3D.

the boiler and system lops are 1-1/4 pipe and the injection is 1" pipe, trouble is, the way the pipes come out, i have to cross-over with one of the injection pipes into the boiler loop

does anyone know if the take-offs on closely spaced tee's have to be inline or can the be rotated as much as 90degres to each other?

this thing is starting to look a lot like those manifolds in a box from danfoss - i am trying my darndest for it to be a serviceable as possable

see attached pdf for pic

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
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    I have

    put them at 90 and even 180 degrees fro one another. keep the spacing tight is the important part.

    Staggering them around the pipe forces the water to twist :)

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
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    I have

    even put them 180° apart. Causes the fluid to twist and shout :) Not a problem. Keep the spacing tight is the key to PS.

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
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    Sure you can

    I've put them 180° aparty. Causes the fluid to twist. And shout :)

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
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    Sure you can

    I've put them 180° apart. Causes the fluid to twist. And shout :) Keep the spacing tight.

    hot rod

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  • hr
    hr Member Posts: 6,106
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    Sure you can

    I've put them 180° apart. Causes the fluid to twist. And shout :) Keep the spacing tight.

    I'd show you but I can't seem to post a pic??

    hot rod

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  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
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    thanks

    i thought so, since the taco "loadmatch" tee's have a baffle in them, which would be no different than it being turned a bit - the "twist. And shout" turbulence might no be a joke though, fourtunaly by me, the injected water goes through a sprirovent and a pump, befor going to the zones so it should be smooth by then, i hope

    fyi, when i asked danfoss about the price of the mnifold in a box, and they gave me a figure of about 4-7grand for my setup, i balked at the price, and they said, OK, build a few, and you will come begging, you know, they were right!!!
    a prefab manifold (if it fits your app), is whole lot cheaper - especially timewise

    about the pic: if it's already on the computer, in gif,jpg,bmp or pdf format - you can, when you edit a message, click on attachments in the bottom left corner of the brown surrond box of the edit area.
  • Jamie_6
    Jamie_6 Member Posts: 710
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    Kal,

    Danfoss is right! Their panals really help jobs fly, not to mention they are done very clean and are made so they are easy to work on.

    by the way, what did you make that drawing in?

    Jamie

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  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
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    good old microsoft powerpoint

    though i have any number of tools including visio that i could use, powerpoint is simply faster, i also have acrobat 6 pro, installed - so that i can print anything straight to a pdf, real conveniant!!

    you can get symbol pictures to make up from ziggi
    http://www.hydronicpros.com/Publications/KnowHowCD/KnowHowCD.htm

    i have attached my complete file so you can see how it evolved - this site doesnt take the ppt extenson for some reason
  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
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    easy to install yes...

    but with valves and controls on top of each other - i dont know about "easy to work on" - dont jump on me - cause i never tried - i only saw it at a trade show - i dont know of a place, in brooklyn NY that i can go see and feel an installed one, so i remain a skeptical new yorker, al least i am, cant figure out, how in the name of sam hill, did we ever elect hilary clinton, i thought we were supposed to be sophisticated??? "duh" on us !!!
  • JaredM_2
    JaredM_2 Member Posts: 6
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    Kal

    I was a skeptical New Yorker too. We installed our first Danfoss panel this past Fall. It went in like a dream. It's a breeze to work on, it's tight in there but my big mitts can get in there and work on anything. They are really well thought out and use the best components so hopefully there won't be a need to get in there. The pre-wired controls make it worth it, for me. It made the wiring simple with no hassles.

    So, if you ever find your way up here in the Hudson Valley let me know and I'll show you this job.

    -JaredM, Kingston, NY
  • Goat  Sr
    Goat Sr Member Posts: 7
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    The only thing that matters is that the tees are close .the water dosen't matter how it gets there.
  • Kal Row
    Kal Row Member Posts: 1,520
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    where did you buy it ??

    were you able to see it first
    or just ordered it to spec?

    i am spending way to much time on building
    manifolds in 3D - the wiring is easy for me,
    but all that copper jigsaw puzzle - geting it rght,
    and serviceable, and to look good, and silent which
    is really important,(is the danfoss quiet?), i am really
    looking for a better way
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