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odd steam systym

Boiler Guy
Boiler Guy Member Posts: 585
odd one: Original One pipe system where all the take offs are 3" vertical off the main to a 90 which serves the horizontal. I thought everything was supposed to come off @ 45* to prevent water hammer. Could this have been a very low pressure system that somebody is now trying to run @ 5#? Can you spell NOISY?

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  • ed wallace
    ed wallace Member Posts: 1,613
    odd steam system

    i looked at a steam system that has me a bit puzzled there is no return piping from the end of the main just a reducing elbow and a main vent but there is a 1 1/4 return dropping down from the main piping by the boiler any guesses what you would call this system?

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  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,832
    Ed

    Isn't that the old Counter-flow? Was it pitching really good? If my memory serves me, these systems do not require a Hartford loop.

    Gary

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  • joe_14
    joe_14 Member Posts: 138
    sounds like


    its a counter flow system which was used in small systems (under 100,000 btus) they used the supply main as the return. from what you posted it sounds like someone added a drip to the main just as it leaves the boiler. this helps to keep the steam dry. just my 2 cents.


    good luck
    joeg.
  • Mad Dog
    Mad Dog Member Posts: 2,595
    The original system in my home

    was one-pipe counterflow. Very simple. Mad Dog

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  • Boilerpro_3
    Boilerpro_3 Member Posts: 1,231
    I worked on one last year

    The previous boiler installer lifted the mains at the boiler end, put in too big of a boiler, and then installed two 3/4 inch dry returns. Didn't work very well (can you say water hammer), since the rad supplies now sloped down to the rads and the mains were level in the middle. Put in the new boiler, dropped the main back where it belonged, ditched the dry, and fired up the boiler. Silince is golden!

    Boilerpro
  • Dale
    Dale Member Posts: 1,317
    New England

    I was once told the counterflow system was developed in rocky new england where the person wanted central steam heat instead of a wood burning 1700 fireplace. To get it you need a basement but a hole in the rock for a boiler and a counter flow makes for less rock digging under the house.
  • Goat  Sr
    Goat Sr Member Posts: 7
    New England Home

    Thats what i have in my house. Counter flow system,with the main 1 pipe size larger for condensate to flow .And yes no hartford loop required.
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