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Combustion Training

The recent bunch of classes we have been running have been well attended. Some of our largest turnouts since we opened Gas Training Institute.

The one class that has only 4 signed up at this time is the Conversion Burner/Combustion Testing class Thursday December 18.

I recently conducted a survey (un-official) at a seminar I was conducting that had about 30 companies represented. I asked how many do combustion and Carbon Monoxide testing. The answer was NONE. Only two of the companies even had equipment. We checked one of thems equipment and the batteries were dead and might I say when I opened up the tester they were corroded.

How do we get the message out as to how important this is? Maybe it has to hit someone in the pocket book before they pay attention. Law suits are not the time to learn.

In nearly all the cases I go on for equipment problems the mechanical room has insufficent air for combustion. In many cases in addition to that they have a negative pressure problem in the building.

I am sure NCI is getting a lot better response to this but I know for a fact that a while back they wanted to do a class in Rhode Island and had to cancel for lack of interest.

The scheduling of this class is not a money thing with me it is a passion. If I could afford to do it I would run the class for nothing.

Every one who works on equipment needs to be trained on detection and correction procedures.


  • flange
    flange Member Posts: 153

    not only is testing necessary for the reason mentioned, it is our duty to perform this during annual service. its nice to go around selling the higher efficiency equipment, but what good does it do us if it isnt properly tuned. not only should the tech tune this during annual startup, its my opinion that each boiler should have the results of the tuneup with the rest of the paperwork and the service report. i just worked on a 175 hp boiler last week, this was installed less than a year ago, it was burning "clean" according to the previous service provider. after looking through the submittals, its was determined that it was burning roughly 1.6x the amount of fuel it should. this translated into a great deal of money spent needlessly on fuel. the amount of fuel wasted in three days would have paid for a new Bacharach and the time to tune this puppy! I was only asked to look at it due to it being down and the other co. not being responsive. looks like i may get this one under contract.
  • Dave Yates (PAH)
    Dave Yates (PAH) Member Posts: 2,162
    time & money


    I suspect both work against proper combustion testing. For $29.95 tune up specials, you aren't gonna get premium service! We perform combustion testing with each tune-up and new installation. As more & more boilers move into the 90+ efficiency range, testing becomes a necessity rather than a luxury or afterthought. Gone (almost) are the days when you could uncrate a boiler, install it, fire it up and walk away for fifty or one hundred years.

    Walked into a basement last week to check a toilet. Upon opening the basement door, I as hit with high humidity and a combustion odor familiar to me. I asked the owner to turn up the thermostat & sure enough, they had a clogged chimney. Old row home, so no felings of being ill expressed by the owner due to drafty house syndrome. It's an antique pancake steam boiler - husband passed this year and no, I repeat, no low water cut off on this old quite tightly sealed up two-pipe vapor system. She hadn't added a drop this year and the gauge glass was 2/3rd full!

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  • When I was teaching

    at a technical college for several years the amount of time the curriculm allowed for combustion training was minimal. Most of it was in the oil course and they did not talk much about CO at all.
  • Eric_11
    Eric_11 Member Posts: 12
    4 level house

    I have an existing home without a central heating system. It is located on the water in Narragansett RI and it is a 4 level house. (Very Odd design). I have spoken to several heating contractors in my area and most of them just want to install one type of system (whichever is their specialty). I would personally like to install a radiant floor system, but think because of its shape/size/style it requires some sort of a mixed system. Presently, 2 of the floors are used as living areas and would like to finish the other two floors in the next couple of years.
    Who can I contact to design a system that can be installed immediately for 2 levels, yet leave room for expansion in he near future?
    Just realized i posted this in the wrong section. Sorry
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