New Steamer Install.... Boilerpro

Richard D._2

where did you get that pic of the drop header..I would like to get that book..
Thjanks Richard

Boilerpro_3

Remember this one?

with the header reduced to 1- 1/4 inch for the drain, no hartford loop and water vents for main vents?

Boilerpro_3

It's gone now and this is the new

With a few upgrades to the piping layout due to some help from you fellow Wallies. Now have that 15 inches from the last boiler riser to the takeoff and another 12(or so) to the header drain.

Boilerpro_3

It's gone now and this is the new

With a few upgrades to the piping layout due to some help from you fellow Wallies and Mark at Dunkirk tech. Now have that 15 inches from the last boiler riser to the takeoff and another 12(or so) to the header drain. Also moved the skimmer up on the side of the tee to keep the water level well above the bottom of the push nipples in the top of the boiler to be sure oil can easily float across the boiler and out the downwared drain valve.

Maybe another improvement on the next install would be to bring the second riser into the header at 45 degrees,or horizontally,so the carry over water from the second tapping doesn't rain down on the steam coming from the first tapping. What do you folks think?

Boilerpro

Unknown

Great pipework

How did you tighten the header together with the unions coming out of the boiler ? Looks pretty tricky but makes life alot easier on a replacement if something unexpected happens .

Are you talking about using an ell on each boiler riser , then a 45 to drop both into the boiler header , instead of 2 more ells ? Sounds like a good idea . Excellent job Boilerpro . Hey , whats with the purple paint on some of the header pipes ?

David Sutton_3

Lookin good !!!!!

Thats a fine job you have done, looks neat and clean!!!

Unknown

Nice work

I think the 45° into the header would be Ideal.

Always striving to improve. I admire you for that, and for the good steam work that you do.

Noel

Unknown

New question....

Anyone seen any instructions that tell you how high above the waterline they like you to be with the header, so that the equalizer doesn't back up over the top? I don't see that anywhere, yet.

Noel

Boilerpro_3

Ron

Pretty piping is easy when you got the space. I still am amazed at your piping in those cramped spaces.

The horizontal pipes for the header are assembled first onto the system supply and the supply risers are brought out of the boiler. Then the nipples and els are brought up out of the header and over to above the risers. Once everything is level and straight I take a measurement between the downward facing el and the union and rummage through the boxes of 2 1/2 inch nipples to find what will fit. I do this first with the riser closest to the system supply so I can turn the header to get the last nipple in place between the downward elbow and the union. Then comes the second supply.

Yep, I was thinking what you were about the 90 el at the top of the riser and then a 45, however you probably only want to do this with the first riser (closest to the system supply) since you will no longer have any swing joints between the risers. Maybe it would be best to just bring the first riser down and then over horizontally to the header. This way you still have both swing joints. I guess I'll give it a try.

The purple paint is from my wholesaler.... all those pipes are precut since I don't have threading equipment for over 1 1/4 inch. On this job I preassemabled the horizontal header piping, the risers and skim piping, the boiler return piping and the hartford loop. I also soaked them to remove most of the oils beforehand. Me and my helper had the old boiler out of the way, the new boiler in the basement, and the header completed by lunch.

I used to shy away from doing steamer, but I think I may be starting to get the hang of this! There also is very little competition in the steam market around here, so it's a real good place to be.

Boilerpro

Boilerpro_3

Hmmmm,

I suspect that the closer you get to the waterline, the bigger the header drain needs to be so it can take a surge of carryover water without backing up. Something new to keep in mind. Maybe I'll bump up the size of the equalizer to 2 inch and the boiler return piping to boot. These last 3 steamers are the first I've done in 2 years (except one this spring)... we'll see when the next one comes.

Boilerpro

Boilerpro_3

Aw, Shucks, Guys....

Steamhead

Proud of ya, BP

That looks as good as anything I've done.

The 45 into the header is an interesting idea, but it looks like you have a LOT of height between the waterline and the tops of the risers, so you shouldn't have any carryover water at all or very little. I suspect that what little there might be will dribble down the side of the drop pipe instead of showering the steam.

It would be interesting to see inside a drop header. Wonder if we can get one of our boiler reps to pipe a steamer with a Pyrex drop header?

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Mad Dog

solid job bro......................................

yeah man....you have to experiement once you get the hang..or you will get bored. I;ve done some really crazy looking headers for assorted reasons, but most just to push the envelope (which I am known for)and see what happens. Keep up the good work. Mad Dog

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RS

Drop Header Piping

Excellent Work Boiler Pro.

Boilerpro_3

Carry over rain

On this install you're probably right. The velocity in those risers is really low.... 2 21/2 inch with only a 140,000 input. However, with dirty or High Ph water (finding more of that around here) I bet there is going to be foaming and carry over. Also, with smaller risers or bigger boilers the velocity in the risers is just plain too high for the water to drop back, so you'll probably get rain then.

I'd love to see a drop header in Pyrex. It would be great to play with the configuration to see what effect it has.
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Boilerpro

Unknown

This one's FINE

I didn't mean to infer that this job was low, it's a question I've been thinking about for a while. I just was taking advantage of the group of people responding to this post, as they are the ones involved in a lot of these headers.

Sorry if I confused things. Here is one of the glass header shots (not dropped) showing the water in the equalizer.

Noel

Unknown

Here it is again

with a couple spoonfuls of oil added to the water....

Richard D._2

Great Job

Looking good.Nice to see people who care about their work..Richard