Old Blueray replacement

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The homeowner , an electrician by trade , wanted more room to work on the panel box . The way the pipes were wrapped around the closet , it was close to impossible to get in there . He was gracious enough to take down the wall so we could work more freely .

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Burnham V84

There were 4 pipes coming right through the concrete near the panel box , as well as 2 return pipes to the right . We cut em all back and rerouted them so the homeowner had about 3 feet of clearance around the panel box .

The system was 3 zones , with the main zone split at the return , and an extra hot and cold . It took me , Kenny and the new kid Dan a long , long time to reconnect them all , but the customer was very happy . Dan was glad I let him pipe out the coil - next time I'll let him sweat a few fittings , not just the relief tube . The homeowner told me it was the first time the system ran without alot of gurgling sounds in the pipes .

kevin coppinger_4

I don't think...

that panel is readily assesible! Or should I say WAS. Ron, good work, one of your easier days...DO you ever hear back on savings from customers? kpc

John@Reliable_5

Looks like!

you stole a W/M switch for your burnham LOL I do that too sometimes Ron John@Reliable

J.C.A._3

Ron,

Seriously, you've got to look into the Taco IFC or Grundfos 15-58 Brute pumps with checks built in.

Explain the time savings AND the pipe, plug and space savings to your boss/manager, and I bet you'll win.

By the way....Don't you just LOVE chucking those old Bluerays out ? I dealt with them after the initial sales fervor, and spent more time converting them to "regular" burners than I'd like to remember. I remember telling the field rep. that filled with cement, and a couple of eye rings, they would make splendid moorings. Chris

joe_14

taco



taco had some problem with ther internal check valve circs. would be a little leery of them. however grunfos has a better circ with built in check, i would reccommand theres over taco.
just my 2 cents
joe.g.

todd s

Another nice one Ron!

I like that air scoop! I'm curious what type of antiscald valve do you use? Are they required on LI?

kevin coppinger_4

most of the...

dificulty w/ the Taco IFC are that you can't run them easily off the return side of the boiler....don't purge out right..kpc

Unknown

We have plenty

left over from the hanging GE installs , which I was blessed with the day before this job . Its been a hectic 2 weeks .

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Chris

I tried getting them on the bandwagon with these new IFC circs , maybe even the circs with a built in relay . I tried to talk them into using pex to connect baseboard or run through attic space . I tried getting all sweat backflow preventers and 3/8 flare firomatics . I even asked for the new B and G flowvalves you can pipe out of horizontal or vertical . No dice .

The only thing I love from the old Blueray is the coil - heavy mungo .

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Kevin

Nope , never hear about the savings from the customer , but I would think it is significant , even if we are still using " 1950s technology " . I know in my own home , when I removed the old Tall York and replaced it with a Peerless and Riello , the fuel bill dropped more than 1/3 in a year very similar to the one before it - temp wise .

It is amazing when the homeowner actually tells you that the job came out much better than they expected . Makes it all worthwhile . Thank you Kevin .

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Yes , thats my own contraption

I like to keep it full sized and the nipple long to trap the air . So far its been working fantastic .

I believe we are only required to install a hand mixer . Before we leave we explain to the customer what it does , and if they want us to set it for them . Almost all want it closed . Thank you Todd .

Jeff_12

Just wondering how you are going to brush the boiler down. The clean out plates are on the right side of that Burnham boiler aren't they.

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What makes you think

that the boiler will ever need to be brushed down ? Actually , we had no choice . We couldn't fit the boiler in with the burner facing the chimney - itll stick out into the kitchen , and facing it the other way woulda took more room near the breakers . I did leave plenty of room around the back to clean it out from the top , and the burner door can be swung out . You do know they can be cleaned from the top , right ?

Jeff_12

First I want to state that the workmanship is great. Yes I do know that It can be brushed from the top. That being said, I'm glad I won't have to it.

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Jeff

On an install like this one - in a closet with tight sides , somethings gotta be sacraficed . Knowing that the boiler can be cleaned from the top , we had to do what we had to do . That boiler wouldn't have been my first choice for this application , but we do the best with what's given to us , and do it in one day .

With the back of the boiler clear of pipes and the burner door easily swung open , I can't see this being too challenging to clean . I guess we're used to less space to work in , those Levitt houses are a nightmare .

ken from nw ohio

Sweet looking install.

Dennis - Reliable Services

Looks great now he can put the wall back, with an access panel,

to get to the electrical panel.