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in THE MAIN WALL
Then we get this - I didnt get the name of the old one , but it was nasty . We lucked out with a nice open basement , but the trip up the stairs , and the turns to get out were hairy . The heater was scrapped also .

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    The Burnham V84

    I am finding out after installing more and more of em for steam , that they run very well in this application . Hot water through the coil is virtually unlimited . The one question I have - the instructions require 18 inches for the horizontal pipes to connect the 2 risers out of the boiler to the boiler header . Why so long of a pipe ? I've been using street ells for years without problems . I hope that number isn't too critical , around here wide basements are the exception , not the rule . I noticed the crooked return piping after my partner soldered it together . If we had more time , I woulda had him redo it - I hate crooked pipes !
  • Steamhead
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    Looks good to me, Ron

    that return pipe looks more "bowed" to me than "crooked". Bowed pipe seems very common these days.

    If memory serves (correct me if I'm wrong, Glenn), the 18-inch horizontals were specified to allow more movement for expansion/contraction. But the extra joints in that sharp-looking drop-header should make up for that.

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  • Mark Hunt
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    NICE!


    Excellent work Ron! Love those drop headers!

    Just took that "Ideal 7" to the scrap yard. It weighed 1360 lbs. The boiler we removed last week weighed 1380 lbs.

    NOW WE'RE TALKIN' HEAVY METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Mark H

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    Yeah , bowed it is

    And the kicker is I helped him get the pipe straight from the other angle . I guess straight one way is good enough nowadays . Thanks alot Steamhead .
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    Hey , how much

    are you getting for scrap at the junkie ? They give us a special price for " mixed " metal , cast and steel , and I think it was a 1.5 cents a pound last time we cashed in .

    In the good old days working in Brooklyn , early nineties , the prices were much higher . The highest we got was 4 cents a pound for cast , and $1.04 a pound for copper . Now thats when we didnt mind seeing the cloverleaf logo . Thanks Mark for the compliment .
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    Nice job JR. I see you are addicted to Drop Headers.............

    as am I...wanna do them on all steamers. Mark? who are we talikn'? Sabbath? Purple? Dio?Maiden? Mad Dog

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  • J.C.A._3
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    Ron,

    Wish I knew about the "drop header" a long time ago. After seeing it , it makes perfect sense. With the basements we used to deal with , we ended up using "false water lines more than we should have . (boiler pits as oppsed to slab installs).

    Nice looking work Ron. The pitch of the header threw that return out of line. Drain the boiler and heat up the bottom of the tee and give it a kick. It'll straighten out . (just kidding, be nice and do it right !) Chris
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    That was one of those pipes

    where they all saw it , but noone said anything to me , they know I'm crazy enough to repipe it . But the 3 of us were just too sapped to even think about it - it was one of those 5 H days , hazy , hot , humid , hungry and hurt . Thanks Chris .
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    My partner Phil

    was giving me that funny look when he saw me pointing those 2 street ells straight down . Its that look he gives me when he thinks " there he goes again , how long is this idiot gonna take on this new experiment ? " Well , he might have revised his thoughts when I had the header piped before they had the jacket on the boiler . Dropping the header does shave some time on building it , as well as the other benefits . Oh yeah , that reminds me , why is there a nice little groove in the jacket to slip it past the front 2 inch tapping , but no groove for the back ? Phil is an expert with tin snips and made the groove for the back himself .
  • Mark Hunt
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    Scrap metal


    we got $2.25/100lbs at one scrap yard and $1.75/100lbs at another.

    Cast doesn't bring very much and unless it's a big boy, I don't even bother going on the scales.

    I am going to see if there are any salvage companies in my area that will do removals on the larger jobs.

    After all, I will be old tomorrow.

    Look forward to tipping a few with you again!

    Mark H

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