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Boiler comparison

there are a few diff, the smith is a pin boiller,ie there are pins located between the various sections to aid in heat transfer, the smith also is a one pass the heat from the combustion chamber rises thru the sections and out the flue, the buderus is a three pass boiler, the heat of combustion leaves the chamber in the back moves throught a passage to the front of boiler then into another passage[pass] and out the flue in the rear,
but the 2 most important feature of the buderus are high eff. and the ability to handle lower return water temps, the buderus can handle 120F return the smith 140F return,
so your comparing apples to oranges

other pin type boilers are peerless, burnham ,weil-mclain, enerjet, lots of others,

other 3 pass boilers would be pensotti, biasi, viesman

hope this helps
chris smith
porter maine

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  • Travis M
    Travis M Member Posts: 1
    Boiler comparison

    My name is Travis and I am curious as to anyone who may be able to give me some comparisons between a Smith Series 8 boiler, and a Buderus G115. I am aware of the cast iron differences however I am not certain of the advantages of one over another. Any ideas out there?? Thanks in advance for the replies.
  • Al Letellier
    Al Letellier Member Posts: 781
    boiler comparison

    Travis, the obvious difference is that the Smith boiler can use a tankless, can be a steam boiler and will cost less. It may be a little more difficult to service, but just a little. The Buderus is an excellent piece of equipment, will be very easy to service, but is limited to heating water. You must use an indirect for domestic as it is not available with a coil. The Buderus will be more efficient over it's life time and will cost more.
    You'll probably get many answers and debates as to the validity of my statment, but it comes from experience and my personnal observations. Everyone has their own opinion and you need to research and decide which one best suits your needs. Good luck!

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  • Joe Grosso
    Joe Grosso Member Posts: 307
    Hey Travis

    > Travis, the obvious difference is that the Smith

    > boiler can use a tankless, can be a steam boiler

    > and will cost less. It may be a little more

    > difficult to service, but just a little. The

    > Buderus is an excellent piece of equipment, will

    > be very easy to service, but is limited to

    > heating water. You must use an indirect for

    > domestic as it is not available with a coil. The

    > Buderus will be more efficient over it's life

    > time and will cost more. You'll probably get

    > many answers and debates as to the validity of my

    > statment, but it comes from experience and my

    > personnal observations. Everyone has their own

    > opinion and you need to research and decide which

    > one best suits your needs. Good luck!

    >

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  • Joe Grosso
    Joe Grosso Member Posts: 307
    Hey Travis

    I install the 8 series from smith and I am a big fan of the people behind the product as well.Have one in my own home so that should say something.Install one with a riello burner with dual filters on the system and see you in a few years.Buderus is also a excellent boiler and have installed a few.Could not go wrong with either one in my book but remeber the installer is without a doubt the most important part
  • Boonierat
    Boonierat Member Posts: 58
    Boiler Comparison

    Travis:

    1. The Smith #8 is your typical gray-iron boiler, the Buderus is an iron boiler with silicone mixed into it. Iron mixed with silicone will have more flex than convential gray iron boilers. Could become an issue in those jobs where thermal shock can occur. Anytime the difference between supply and return water gets spread out greater than 50 degres this is an issue.

    2. The Smith 8 has sections assembled with synthetic seals, the Buderus has sections assembled with steel push nipples. This ain't no biggee. Satisfies personal preferences from one contractor to the other.

    Both are real fine products, made by people that care about the quality they put our into the field.
    Nels

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