Bathroom Radiant? Jamie

Jamie_6

Scenario!

Homeowner calls and has an existing hot-water system. He/She would like a small radiant loop done in their new master bath. How do we approach this? Right off the bat we must repipe the entire boiler P/S?????? How do you sell this? We are talking big bucks for one room!

heretic

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Earthfire

big bucks?

The new master bath IS big bucks. We are our own worst enemy in this buisiness. We have terminal sticker shock,and pass it on to the client. If you don't believe that it's worth doing , there is no way in _ell that you will be able to sell your services of ultimate comfort at a fair price. The customer always goes for the cheapest item. That's why your customer probable has a $35,000 SUV parked in the driveway instead of a $9,000 Kia. They both have 4 tires and a steering wheel. Do the job right at a fair profitable price, and everybody will be happy.

ScottMP

Jamie

Depending upon the size of the bathroom, I see no reason why the whole boiler has to be re-piped. Yes P/S is the way to go but for a small room, say even 15 x 15, theres no reason why a new zone with a three way valve and manifold can't do this.

Sure tell them about re-piping the boiler. Tell them that a new boiler will work better and more efficiently than the old. But I see no reason for a complete re-pipe for another zone. We've added a zone of radiant to plenty of homes without re-piping the whole thing.

Hell, HR's does it with a 6 gallon electric if they have hot air.

Scott

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Jamie_6

Hey Scott!

Thanks for the reply just wanted to make sure all the "big guys" were doing small radiant jobs that way! From what everyone said they said this would be ok for a small bath when the house has copperfin baseboard, but how about if the home has 3/4" copperfin convectors?

Thanks,
Jamie

Are you going to Wetstock II?

Michael Wagoner

boiler repiping

Just curious, wouldn't you have to repipe the boiler, regardless of age to provide for the cold water coming back from the radiant to protect the boiler from thermal shock? (Of course this is assuming its not a boiler that can handle cold water coming back to it, such as Buderus/Veisman) Or is it such a small amount of water you wouldn't have to worry?
Mike

Jack Smith

Total re-pipe?

If you mean adding a zone with a mixing valve and pump and then installing a by-pass is a total re-pipe, then yes. Or use a hot water tank. Cheaper and faster and can take the lowest temperature of any boiler I know.

kevin_5

Very well said Earthfire,

I've read "Just add H2Oh", but it's one of those things that I need to keep hearing. Thanks for saying it so well. I have a similiar job I'm bidding right now, and you've inspired me! Kevin

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